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boot option "lang"
by Philippe Delavalade 17 Dez '11

17 Dez '11

Hi. With the grml64_2011.12-rc1, I entered lang=fr-iso at boot propt. But the kbd_mode command told me that I was in utf8. I verified in /proc/cmdline that my option was correct and it was the case. Beside this, I continue to think that a beep at the moment of the boot prompt and the possibility to have a boot option invoking brltty is the more accessible for blind people. Sorry to insist on thiis point. Regards -- Ph. Delavalade

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serial console with grml_2011.12-rc1
by John Heim 16 Dez '11

16 Dez '11

I can't get a serial console with grml_2011.12-rc1. I think (can't be sure because I'm blind) I am typing this: grml serial console=ttyS0,19200n8 If I boot my machine into linux off the hard drive, I get my serial console. So I know there is nothing wrong with my null modem cable or my terminal emulator. But with grml, I do not get a prompt of any type. From the terminal side, it looks like there's no getty on the other side.

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Grml 2011.12 Release Candidate 1 available
by Christian Hofstaedtler 15 Dez '11

15 Dez '11

Grml Users! We are proud to announce the first release candidate of the upcoming version 2011.12, code-named "Knecht Rootrecht"! For detailed information about the changes between 2011.05 and 2011.12 have a look at the official release announcement: http://bit.ly/vMHbqR This release brings a downsizing and cleanup: one flavour, two architectures. The new, smaller flavour has a 350MB ISO size target, while still delivering over 1.1GB of open source software relevant for system administrators! Give it a try: download grml 2011.12-rc from http://bit.ly/sESUaa now! Please test the ISOs and everything you usually use and report back, so we can complete the stable release soon. If no major problems come up, the next iteration will be the stable release, which is scheduled for end of December. Thank you for your attention, -ch on behalf of the Grml Team. -- Grml Live Linux

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Re: [Grml] Accessibility in the grml 2011.12
by Philippe Delavalade 13 Dez '11

13 Dez '11

Le mardi 13 dÃ©cembre Ã 18:31, John G. Heim a Ã©crit : > From: "Philippe Delavalade" <philippe.delavalade(a)sfr.fr> > To: <grml(a)ml.grml.org> > >So, accessibility is disabled :-( That's what I feared and the 4 tones are > >of no interest... > > Well, I wouldn't go that far. When you hear the tones, press q, and > type in the command to load the accessibility tool of your choice. > For example, if you have a doubletalk, you'd type "modprobe > speakup_ltlk". Maybe, but my interest is for braille with brltty ; earlier, there was a boot option invoking brltty ; it was not easy to deal with because it was not easy to know when it was time to enter the option and keyboard was an qwerty one. Nevertheless, I could customize with grml2iso and a help from this list. Now, I have to wait for the tones, press 'q' and invoke brltty ; but I'm stil in qwerty :-( I can say I want french with the lang boot option but it's not so easy to know when I have to enter the boot option. I feel the best way should be to have a beep when it's time to enter boot options ; then it should be possible to enter the option brltty=,,, the blind option and the lang. I was pleased with the previous release (2011.05) customized ; I fear customizing the next release will be more difficult. Maybe I'm wrong and I hope so. > > It occurs to me that it is kind of inaccurate to say that the > accessibility tools have been removed. The speakup modules are now > part of a regular kernel. They haven't been removed. So you should > be able to load them at the boot prompt via the normal process for > loading kernel modules. I have never actually tried this myself and > I haven't had time to try the latest grml release yet either. But > I'll do that ASAP and report back. If you want to try it yourself, > here is a link to documentation on the kernel.org web site on how to > load kernel modules: > > http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt > I'll have a look to it but for me, braille is much more important than speech. > Assuming that works, grml is more accessible than ever. At the very > least, you should be able to load the speakup modules after boot. As I know, speakup don't speak french :-( Thanks ; I'm going to try another time. -- Ph. Delavalade

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Accessibility in the grml 2011.12
by Philippe Delavalade 13 Dez '11

13 Dez '11

Hi all. I had a look to the Release Notes for Grml 2011.12-rc1 and something seems very unclear to me : * The accessibility support now consists of shipping standard speakup and enabling sound during boot. A new beep sequence (4 tones) is sounded just before the quickconfig menu starts. (The boot options have been removed.) When I hear the 4 tones, is it time to invoke brltty ? I don't really understand the meaning of Â«Â the boot options have been removedÂ». And when shall I choose lang=fr ? Thanks for explanations. -- Ph. Delavalade

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Boot options
by Philippe Delavalade 01 Dez '11

01 Dez '11

HI all. I'm new on this list and new to GRML. Being blind and french, I have to enter the following when booting on the CD : grml blind brltty=pm,usb:,fr@FR lang=fr-iso It is difficult because I don't know exactly when it is boot prompt and I have to do this with a qwerty keyboard instaid of my usual azerty. Mistakes are frequent :-( So, I would like to know if it's possible to avoid the step of boot options. I guess it's possible to remaster the iso but maybe there is something more simple and handy. If it's the only way to remaster, where can I find informations to do thisÂ ? Long time ago, I did that with the linuxfromscratch livecd but every step was explained... Thanks for help or advice. -- Ph. Delavalade

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spawning problem
by simon.eigeldinger＠vol.at 01 Dez '11

01 Dez '11

hi, sorry. sent the message maybe not to the list. to my previous message. I execute grml 2011.05 that way because i am blind: grml brltty=ht,,de lang=at fb=false i have to disable the framebuffer because i heard brltty has issues when this is on. then i always get messages from init that id 12 is spawning too fast. i also get that with grml 2010.12. greetings, simon -- Simon Eigeldinger simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at

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grml 2011.05: init: Id "12" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
by simon.eigeldinger＠vol.at 01 Dez '11

01 Dez '11

Hello, I use grml now a few years now and just figured out with a computer i get that message. tested this with grml 2010.12 and 2011.05: init: Id "12" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes. What is causing that problem? greetings, simon

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Upcoming Z-Shell Setup changes.
by Frank Terbeck 29 Nov '11

29 Nov '11

Hi there, We - the grml team - have recently discussed rather substantial changes in our interactive zsh setup. The setup is quite large, large enough to not be maintainable by our limited resources. Therefore, we will be cutting down its size in the not-so-distant future. The current plan is outlined here: <http://ft.bewatermyfriend.org/tmp/gzcu.org> We might make some of the removed features available as add-ons. A tentative list of ideas is here: <http://piratenpad.de/g1A8PIJkOL> Work on this will begin shortly - albeit in a separate branch of the `grml-etc-core' package's git repository. If there is anything in the removal list, that you'd like to keep, make a convincing argument as to why the feature in question should be kept. After the cleanup is done, we are planning to split the zsh setup out of `grml-etc-core' and into a package of its own, so that users who are only interested in the zsh-setup can quickly install just that on any debian-based OS. Regards, Frank - on behalf of the grml team. -- In protocol design, perfection has been reached not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. -- RFC 1925

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Announcement: Grml flavour & package list changes
by Christian Hofstaedtler 15 Nov '11

15 Nov '11

[cc:ed grml@ mailing list for further exposure] Hi everybody, starting now, we will ship a different set of Grml flavours and package sets in future releases. (For more background please see the October 2011 meeting minutes.) Our goal is to have one ~300MB ISO flavour which will ship with all the commonly used tools for rescue & deployment tasks. This flavour replaces the old full, medium and small ISOs. Have a look at the (current) package list in detail: http://git.grml.org/?p=grml-live.git;a=blob;f=etc/grml/fai/config/package_c… Note that as we go along changes to this list will happen. If you're missing a tool you're using day to day in rescue & deployment scenarios, please suggest it! The daily ISOs (starting 20111115) from http://daily.grml.org/ already use the new package list, so give these a try. (sid builds fail at the moment, please use wheezy instead.) Feedback is welcome on the mailing lists, as well on IRC (#grml on FreeNode). -ch PS: As you can see in the package list, the bare tools for accessibility will be included, but that's about it. We can't make any guarantees for working accessibility. -- Grml Live Linux IRC: #grml on FreeNode

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