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Remove dmraid package from GRML?
by Eric Thirolle 07 Jan '15

07 Jan '15

I noticed the following error printed to console during bootup of my custom GRML Live CD: modprobde: module dm-raid45 not found in modules.dep I did a bit of research into this module, and found it is called "dmraid" in the Debian package repositories. This package is available for wheezy/jessie, but not installed by default. However, "dmraid" *is* included in GRML's FAI classes: # grep -R dmraid /etc/grml/fai/* /etc/grml/fai/config/package_config/GRML_XL:dmraid /etc/grml/fai/config/package_config/GRML_MEDIUM:dmraid /etc/grml/fai/config/package_config/GRML_SMALL:dmraid /etc/grml/fai/config/package_config/GRML_FULL:dmraid The dmraid package is responsible for support for so-called "ATARAID", which is RAID for IDE drives provided by a number of old hardware RAID cards (details here: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/dmraid & https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ataraid&sektion=4&manpath=FreeBSD… ). Given how old this RAID driver is... should dmraid be removed from the GRML FAI classes? Or is there something else that needs to be done to correct the "module dm-raid45 not found in modules.dep" error on the custom Live CD? Thanks! Eric

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grmlfull-32 2014.11
by David Hare 04 Dez '14

04 Dez '14

Trying out grmlfull-32 2014.11 iso as a virtualbox guest. On two different machines (one wheezy, intel core2, 2GB RAM .. another jessie, intel core2, 1GB RAM) In both cases it hangs at "Waiting for /dev to be fully populated..." I have seen the bug report for udev but thought it was fixed. A few lines above is a suggestion to boot with "noudev". Trying that gives errors "could not open /dev/tty1" repeated for other ttys .. then "could not chown/chmod tty device" ad infinitum. Using "serial console" option boots to a prompt but freezes after X has started (static mouse cursor) Any ideas what is wrong? I have tried also the "-small" and "daily build" versions with the same result. No hardware immediately available to try cd or usb.. Other iso's work fine here in VB.. *except* recent custom builds with jessie+sysvinit+util-linux_25x which also cannot open a tty. David Hare

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Own Rescue-CD based on grml
by Werner P. Schulz 20 Nov '14

20 Nov '14

Last weeks I worked again on remaster grml http://www.wp-schulz.de/rescue-cd-mit-grml.html Perhaps it may be useful for some of us. Greetings Werner

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Grml - new stable release 2014.11 available
by Michael Prokop 17 Nov '14

17 Nov '14

Hi, we just released Grml 2014.11 - Gschistigschasti This Grml release provides fresh software packages from Debian testing (AKA jessie). As usual it also incorporates up2date hardware support and fixes known bugs from the previous Grml release. More information is available in the release notes of Grml 2014.11: http://grml.org/changelogs/README-grml-2014.11/ Grab the latest Grml ISO(s) and spread the word! http://grml.org/download/ PS: Special thanks to Christian Hofstaedtler for helping us in solving a big release stopper caused by udev's net.agent on systems without systemd (AKA http://bugs.debian.org/754987 ) Thanks everyone and happy grml-ing, -mika-

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First Release Candidate of Grml version 2014.10 available
by Michael Prokop 31 Okt '14

31 Okt '14

Hi, so we did it again, the first release candidate of the upcoming Grml version 2014.10, code-named 'Gschistigschasti' was released. This Grml release provides fresh software packages from Debian testing (AKA jessie). As usual it also incorporates up2date hardware support and fixes known bugs from the previous Grml release. For detailed information about the changes between 2014.03 and 2014.10 have a look at the official release announcement: http://grml.org/changelogs/README-grml-2014.10-rc1/ Please test the ISOs and everything you usually use and report back so we can complete the stable release soon. If no major problems come up, the next iteration will be the stable release, which is scheduled for the end of October. Thanks to all contributors! regards, -mika- - for the Grml.org project

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Possible to run grml-debootstrap --vmfile inside docker?
by Patrick Schleizer 18 Okt '14

18 Okt '14

Hi! Was playing a bit with docker... ## On the host. modprobe dm-mod ## Made my own image. sudo apt-get install debootstrap sudo -E /usr/share/docker.io/contrib/mkimage.sh -t $USER/minbase debootstrap --variant=minbase stable ## Run a bash shell within. sudo docker run -i -t $USER/minbase /bin/bash ## Install modprobbe. apt-get install kmod ## Test modprobbe. modprobe dm-mod libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod.c:554 kmod_search_moddep: could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/3.16-2-amd64/modules.dep.bin' Which failed, which is what grml-debootstrap would do. And without dm-mod, also kpartx will fail. Cheers, Patrick

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GRML2USB encryption
by Charles Alan Hewson 14 Sep '14

14 Sep '14

Would it be practical to encrypt all of usb stick with grub2 modules? I have concerns about /boot on missing thumb drives. Charles

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grml daily builds
by Carlos Carlos 28 Aug '14

28 Aug '14

Thanks Darshaka and Evgeni. I didn't trust too much in md5 sums as I have seen in other daily build distro and unchanged/unmodified iso that the day it was build for the first time, lets say on 09 January, had x md5 then the automatic build system, rebuilt it again the next day, 10 January, and its md5 was different, who knows it could be the simple different number in the date or a glitch during the automatic build process, iso sizes were exactly the same, the iso was a final version so nothing was modified by the devs because they only add or change things between final versions not a day after a final version is released and their md5 were different. That's why I thought the same thing happens in grml, iso is the same unless you see an increase or decrease in its size, md5 can be different as a matter or different date coded in the build so if you see the same size in 3 consecutive daily builds then you can expect no browser update, no openssl update and the like. I don't know if the autobuild systems are controled by anything/anyone or if they simply keep rebuilding isos on a daily basis and autonomous way no matter if modifications were made or not, something like: It was programmed to do a rebuild every day at 11:00 or so Thanks much for your replies.

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grml daily builds
by Carlos Carlos 28 Aug '14

28 Aug '14

Hi I found the page that generates daily builds of unstable and stable grml, I notice that iso size can be exactly the same for 3 or 4 consecutive days so I suppose nothing was changed or added to the iso in those days, is this correct?. I might be wrong but I don't think there are devs coding new things or modifying old ones every single day. I suppose that the app which generates the daily isos do it automatically and it doesn't matter if something new was added or not, modified or not, it simply keeps doing daily isos non stop, correct?. Thanks in advance for any info.

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Cheatcodes as PDF?
by Tim Landscheidt 23 Mai '14

23 Mai '14

Hi, printing http://git.grml.org/?p=grml-live.git;a=blob_plain;f=templates/GRML/grml-che… isn't easy as there are some long lines especially in the "Configuration settings" section where word-wrap looks aw- ful. Is there a PDF (A4) version available somewhere? Tim

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Some features may be dropped from GNU Screen in the future (including braille support)
by Axel Beckert 04 Apr '14

04 Apr '14

Hi, on the GNU Screen development mailing list, there's currently a thread which discusses how to get some drive in the GNU Screen development again. Amadeusz Sławiński (Cc'ed) has a git repo with some a little bit more disruptive changes at https://github.com/amade/screen/tree/devel/src In the following mail he describes what he changed and removed. (I've shortened the mail. "[…]" show points where I removed parts. Full mail at https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/screen-devel/2014-04/msg00008.html) One of the GNU Screen feature which are about to be dropped in the future is Screen's braille support. (Which is not enabled in Debian's screen package as far as I can see.) I know that there are quite some visually handicapped Grml users, so I send this mail to the debian-accessibility mailing list and the general Grml mailing list. Reply-To is set to the screen-users mailing list. (I don't read debian-accessibility, but both other lists.) I also allowed myself to Bcc some other heavy screen users I know personally. So if you use Screen's braille features (whatever they are exactly) or any other of the explicitly listed features in the mail below, and want to continue to using them, please speak up now. Upstream is also in need of someone testing (and maybe maintaining) that code. One potentially to be removed screen feature which IIRC is used by Grml by default is the nethack mode with a little bit more cryptic screen messages than by default. Not sure how mission-critical that one is. ;-) ----- Forwarded message from Amadeusz Sławiński <amade(a)asmblr.net> ----- Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 19:47:21 +0200 From: Amadeusz Sławiński <amade(a)asmblr.net> To: screen-devel(a)gnu.org Subject: Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer […] > > * new features (256 colors in hardstatus, hardstatus on top, > > truecolor, ...) […] > > * removal of ancient code (removed most of #ifdef for ancient > > systems) […] > I fear that this may cause a lot of breakage. Linux(*) is by far not > the only platform for Screen out there. > > (*) You wrote earlier that you only tested your code on Linux. Linux > is by far not the only platform, GNU Screen runs on. That's why I warn before hand. Screen is project which accumulated more then 25 years of code according to copyrights. And while it may be interesting to historians, I think it's time source is stripped of those workarounds and retested on machines people use, because it's likely that it just works with far fewer hacks, than it had. > > * removal of features which didn't seem useful or could be replaced […] > Please list which features you removed, so that people at least have a > chance to object. […] That's why I want to talk about it before I do anything drastic, one of reasons I tried to describe my changes at least a bit ;) >From fast comparing between source files: multiuser - seemed more like security risk to me braille - couldn't test :( utmp - seemed broken and there is also utmpx? nethack - funny, but who really needs it? zmodem - according to wiki some ancient file transfer protocol there may be something else... […] I want to make sure that screen stays as usable as it is to people who use it, but also would like to see new stuff happening, that's why I started this talk. Amadeusz ----- End forwarded message ----- Regards, Axel -- ,''`. | Axel Beckert <abe(a)debian.org>, http://people.debian.org/~abe/ : :' : | Debian Developer, ftp.ch.debian.org Admin `. `' | 1024D: F067 EA27 26B9 C3FC 1486 202E C09E 1D89 9593 0EDE `- | 4096R: 2517 B724 C5F6 CA99 5329 6E61 2FF9 CD59 6126 16B5

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Grml - new stable release 2014.03 available
by Michael Prokop 31 Mär '14

31 Mär '14

Hi, we just released Grml 2014.03 - Ponywagon. This Grml release provides fresh software packages from Debian testing (AKA jessie). As usual it also incorporates up2date hardware support and fixes known bugs from the previous Grml release. More information is available in the release notes of Grml 2014.03: http://grml.org/changelogs/README-grml-2014.03/ Grab the latest Grml ISO(s) and spread the word! http://grml.org/download/ Thanks everyone and happy grml-ing, -mika-

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First Release Candidate of Grml version 2014.03 released
by Michael Prokop 24 Mär '14

24 Mär '14

Hi, so we did it again, the first release candidate of the upcoming Grml version 2014.03, code-named 'Ponywagon' was released. This Grml release provides fresh software packages from Debian testing (AKA jessie). As usual it also incorporates up2date hardware support and fixes known bugs from the previous Grml release. For detailed information about the changes between 2013.09 and 2014.03 have a look at the official release announcement: http://grml.org/changelogs/README-grml-2014.03-rc1/ Please test the ISOs and everything you usually use and report back so we can complete the stable release soon. If no major problems come up, the next iteration will be the stable release, which is scheduled for the end of March (2014 ;)). PS: As you might notice the ISOs increased again (e.g. from ~350MB to 400MB for grml-full), if someone is interested in reducing the ISO we welcome any patches, concrete feedback,.. Thanks to all contributors! regards, -mika- - for the Grml.org project

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PLEASE RE-ADD MIRRORS
by Dan D. 15 Mär '14

15 Mär '14

We previously had these same mirrors up under Go-Part.com but then changed our domain to Go-Parts.com. The mirror links then dropped off. We apologize deeply for this, and assure you that this is a one-time event. Going forward, the mirrors will stay up for a very long time to come, and are being served from very reliable and fast servers, and being monitored and maintained by a very competent server admin team. PLEASE ADD: (USA) http://mirrors-usa.go-parts.com/grml ftp://mirrors-usa.go-parts.com/grml rsync://mirrors-usa.go-parts.com/grml (UK) http://mirrors-uk.go-parts.com/grml ftp://mirrors-uk.go-parts.com/grml rsync://mirrors-uk.go-parts.com/grml (Australia) http://mirrors-au.go-parts.com/grml ftp://mirrors-au.go-parts.com/grml rsync://mirrors-au.go-parts.com/grml (Russia) http://mirrors-ru.go-parts.com/grml ftp://mirrors-ru.go-parts.com/grml rsync://mirrors-ru.go-parts.com/grml (Brazil) http://mirrors-br.go-parts.com/grml ftp://mirrors-br.go-parts.com/grml rsync://mirrors-br.go-parts.com/grml (Japan) http://mirrors.go-parts.com/grml ftp://mirrors.go-parts.com/grml rsync://mirrors.go-parts.com/grml Thanks, Dan

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Typo or missing feature and a basic question
by ha 15 Mär '14

15 Mär '14

I'm new to grml so please excuse me if this on wrong list or similar. Recently I've tried to install debian using grml and I found something that could be a typo: Line 136 of config file: # Run scripts from /etc/debootstrap/pre-scripts/ after setting up chroot. Shouldn't it state "/etc/debootstrap/scripts/" ? In config file I've found extrapackages, but on the man page of grml-debootstrap there is no option extrapackages. Is this intentionally? This option is not implemented or simply not documented? Additionally , I would be grateful for a help on how to use scripts from "scripts" direcotry. My plan was to add a script to compile a program (for instance dwm), however I was unable to achieve this. I'm unsure if this is feasible at all, and whether I'm positioned at the right directory (or how to check that). I invoked command with the -d flag: grml-debootstrap -d FILE Finally, I have troubles at debugging debootstrap stages. If someone would show me how to do that, perhaps I could solve the previous problem by myself. I've read somewhere about install_notes file that could be used for this, but I haven't found much on it - assuming that I understood that correctly. Thanks in advance.

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grml-debootstrap VM creation broken due to bug in kpartx?
by adrelanos 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

Hi! My grml-debootstrap configuration is here: https://github.com/adrelanos/minimal-grml-debootstrap-test (I think it's quite useful to have a single script/configuration around for producing minimal instructions on how to produce that bug.) grml-debootstrap keeps failing for me. umount: /mnt/debootstrap.23035: device is busy I guess it could be because this bug in kpartx: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=734794 Cheers, adrelanos

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/etc/exports not being created when using grml-terminalserver package
by Tom Moore 28 Jan '14

28 Jan '14

Hi guys, I have ran the grml-terminalserver-config and grml-terminalserver scripts to get the environment going for pxebooting machines on my network. What should my /etc/exports look like to access the grml live cd at: /lib/live/mount

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grml virtual machine
by John G. Heim 04 Jan '14

04 Jan '14

I want to create a custom grml ISO that has a kernel patched for hardware speech synthesiers. There's a bug in the kernel code so most hardware speech synths don't work. If I can put ma custom compiled kernel on a grml disk, I can use it with my hardware speech synth. The man page for grml-live recommends running it on a virtual machine running grml. That sounds like a good idea. I have a VMWare player virtual machine booted into grml from the latest 32-bit iso file. But I am uncertain as to what to do next. Should I use grml2usb or grml-debbootstrap or something else? What's the best way to set up a virtual machine to run grml?

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Mirrors for GRML
by Timo Jacob 06 Dez '13

06 Dez '13

Hello, please add our mirrors to the public mirror list: + Mirrors Japan: http://mirrors.go-parts.com/grml/ ftp://mirrors.go-parts.com/grml/ rsync://mirrors.go-parts.com/mirrors/grml/ + Mirrors-usa: http://mirrors-usa.go-parts.com/grml/ ftp://mirrors-usa.go-parts.com/grml/ rsync://mirrors-usa.go-parts.com/mirrors/grml/ + Mirrors-uk: http://mirrors-uk.go-parts.com/grml/ ftp://mirrors-uk.go-parts.com/grml/ rsync://mirrors-uk.go-parts.com/mirrors/grml/ + Mirrors-russia: http://mirrors-ru.go-parts.com/grml/ ftp://mirrors-ru.go-parts.com/grml/ rsync://mirrors-ru.go-parts.com/mirrors/grml/ + Mirrors-australia: http://mirrors-au.go-parts.com/grml/ ftp://mirrors-au.go-parts.com/grml/ rsync://mirrors-au.go-parts.com/mirrors/grml/ + Mirrors-brazil: http://mirrors-br.go-parts.com/grml/ ftp://mirrors-br.go-parts.com/grml/ rsync://mirrors-br.go-parts.com/mirrors/grml/ Contact Name: Timo Jacob address: timojacob.gp(a)gmail.com Please let me know if you have any questions and I would be happy to answer them. Kind regards Timo Jacob

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Cannot find code to color by file extensions on an ls
by John 22 Nov '13

22 Nov '13

I just opened a new bug report (http://bts.grml.org/grml/issue1286) wherein I ask to have some file extensions added to the list to color red on an `ls` but find myself clueless where exactly this "color these extensions red on an ls" resides. The only thing I can find in /etc/zsh/zshrc begins on line #3116 but I do not understand it. Can someone point me to where this list is defined? My request should be as easy as adding the new extensions to some array I would think. Thanks!

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Re: [Grml] J'ai l'inux nom de code Canterbury
by chris21.roux＠free.fr 05 Nov '13

05 Nov '13

----- Mail original ----- De: grml-request(a)ml.grml.org À: grml(a)ml.grml.org Envoyé: Vendredi 27 Septembre 2013 12:00:02 Objet: Grml Digest, Vol 95, Issue 9 Send Grml mailing list submissions to grml(a)ml.grml.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://ml.grml.org/mailman/listinfo/grml or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to grml-request(a)ml.grml.org You can reach the person managing the list at grml-owner(a)ml.grml.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Grml digest..." Today's Topics: 1. J'ai l'inux nom de code Canterbury (chris21.roux(a)free.fr) 2. Re: J'ai l'inux nom de code Canterbury (Thomas K?hler) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 22:48:44 +0200 (CEST) From: chris21.roux(a)free.fr To: grml(a)ml.grml.org Subject: [Grml] J'ai l'inux nom de code Canterbury Message-ID: <1799077990.27381246.1380228524139.JavaMail.root(a)spooler6-g27.priv.proxad.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Le projet "J'ai l'inux" vise ? proposer une distribution Linux capable de filter les contenus notamment pornographiques, pour une utilisation ? l'?cole. Pour filtrer les contenus, il est n?cessaire d'intervenir ? l'int?rieur du syst?me pour intercepter les contenus ? filtrer (on ne peut pas intervenir au niveau des trames r?seau car ? ce niveau les contenus ne sont pas interp?tables). J'ai pens? ? utiliser des machines virtuelles pour d?l?guer ? chaque machine virtuelle une portion sp?cifique du syst?me ? assurer. Cette id?e est n?e d'un poisson d'avril (April's fool joke) qui annon?ait le projet Canterbury, visant ? r?unir le meilleur de 5 distributions Linux dans une nouvelle distribution. En tant que chr?tien, je suis tr?s sensible aux poissons d'avril qui ont pour objectif de se moquer des chr?tiens. J'ai donc choisi ces 5 distributions et j'ai fait un prototype de test 64 bits: - Archlinux pour l'interface homme-machine et la virtualisation - Gentoo pour la compilation - Grml pour les entr?es-sorties - Open-Suse pour les applications - Debian pour les applications 32 bits et la mod?lisation L'id?e sous-jacente ? ce projet, c'est un module noyau ? d?velopper qui permettra de router les appels syst?me vers chaque distribution en fonction du type d'appel syst?me et du r?le de chaque distribution dans le syst?me. Le pattern MVCA (Mod?le= donn?es, Vue=ihm, Controleur=noyau, Action=application) est utilis? entre Archlinux, Grml et OpenSuse. Le filtrage de contenu s'effectue entre les applications et les vues gr?ce au module noyau qui intercepte les donn?es ? filtrer et les dirige vers un filtreur hors noyau. Le filtreur applique des outils sur les donn?es pour d?cider si elles seront autoris?es ou non. Pour d?velopper le filtreur, un nouveau langage, Pmal, est ? cr?er. On a besoin d'un nouveau langage qui doit ?tre capable de faire ?voluer ses programmes sans avoir ? les interrompre. Ce langage sera bas? sur du typage fort, pour assurer la s?curit? du syst?me. J'ai imagin? un langage de glue pour faire ?a. Il s'agit d'un langage qui fait un usage important de la r?flexivit?: il connait ses constituants et peut agir dessus. Il est bas? sur le principe des conteneurs l?gers: les classes composantes sont assembl?es par inversion de controle. Chaque composante ne connait pas avec quel composant il sera reli? dans les conteneurs l?gers. Exemple: un objet A est reli? ? un objet de type D sur lequel il invoque une m?thode b pour imprimer. A ne sait pas de quelle classe est l'objet de typez D. De D, 2 classes h?ritent: B et C, pour 2 imprimantes diff?rentes. Chaque classe B et C poss?de un objet M?thode impl?mentant la m?thode b. Cet objet M?thode porte des attributs "tags" qui le d?crivent. Par exemple B a un tag "600dpi" et C a un tag "300dpi". Lorsque A demande a ex?cuter b, b est intercept? par le conteneur l?ger qui va filter les candidats possibles en fonction des tags. Finalement, le conteneur l?ger choisira B pour optimiser la qualit? d'impression, sans que A se soit jamais dout? de rien. On pourra aussi avoir un objet proxy qui intercepte les requ?tes b et les envoie de mani?re asynchrone. Ou encore, un compteur d'appels de m?thode incr?mental pour d?tecter les boucles infinies et les r?soudre en analysant le code invoqu? et en proposant une approximation si elles tendent vers une limite. Par exemple on pourra r?soudre le paradoxe de Z?non: Achille et la tortue font une course : Achille va 2 fois plus vite que la tortue. Chaque fois que Achille parcours la distance qui le s?pare de la tortue, celle-ci parcours la moiti? de cette distance. Ainsi une nouvelle distance plus petite les s?pare... La r?cursion est infinie. Si on compte les appels r?cursifs avec une interruption par exemple au bout de 10 it?rations, en analysant le code on peut d?duire que la limite tend vers 0 et retourner cette r?ponse comme approximation et mettre fin ? la boucle. Si il n'y a pas de limite on interrompra aussi la boucle pour ?viter un engorgement syst?me. Avec le niveau d'abstraction o? une m?thode est un objet on pour attacher cette m?thode ? un seul objet sans l'attacher ? tous les objets de sa classe, ? des fins de tests. Une fois test?e, cette m?thode pourra ?tre g?n?ralis?e ? toute la classe. A ce moment, la m?thode sera intercept?e par un proxy, puis mise en place, puis activ?e en d?bloquant le proxy, permettant ainsi une ?volution du code et des classes du programme sans interruption. De plus, bien que fortement typ?, ce langage pourra ?tre ex?cut? par du javascript, du fait de son niveau d'abstraction : les objets, les classes, les attributs et les m?thodes sont tous des objets manipulables. Actuellement, je dispose d'un prototype faisant fonctionner les 5 distributions ensemble. J'ai presque termin? le compilateur pour les m?thodes du langage en Java 1.5. Il faut d?velopper l'ensemble du langage Pmal, le module du noyau pour router les appels syst?me et aussi un gestionnaire de paquets pour l'ensemble du syst?me avec les 5 distributions. Il s'agit d'un travail ?norme, mais le proverbe dit: "La foi d?place des montagnes". Contactez-moi si vous d?sirez participer: chris21.roux(a)free.fr subject "J'ai l'inux". ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 08:28:13 +0200 From: Thomas K?hler <jean-luc(a)picard.franken.de> To: grml(a)ml.grml.org Subject: Re: [Grml] J'ai l'inux nom de code Canterbury Message-ID: <20130927062813.GA15925(a)picard.franken.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello, First thing: I did learn some French at school, but that was two decades ago. I might completely misunderstand everything here. It might even be that this whole thing is an April's fool that went wrong (in regards to the calendar, that is). Just a few random thoughts from my side follow anyway. chris21.roux(a)free.fr wrote: > Le projet "J'ai l'inux" vise ? proposer une distribution Linux > capable de filter les contenus notamment pornographiques, pour > une utilisation ? l'?cole. If I understand this correctly, you want to filter out pornographic material at school, and the target is to create a linux distribution for this application. Answer from c.roux: ******************* I want to filter pornography and other perversions, based on content analysis, so this explains why I need a new distribution: it is not possible to analyse an image content at network level. The MVC pattern allows to filter content at the moment when the application sends the image to the view, inside the whole system. I developed a multi-virtual machines system in order to have one for the application, another for the view and a third for input and output, allowing to filter at the communication level between the virtual machines. ******************* > Pour filtrer les contenus, il est n?cessaire d'intervenir ? > l'int?rieur du syst?me pour intercepter les contenus ? filtrer > (on ne peut pas intervenir au niveau des trames r?seau car ? ce > niveau les contenus ne sont pas interp?tables). If I understand this correctly, you thing you can only do this on the system itself, because you think it's not possible to intervene at the network layer. Well, actually, it is. If you connect your systems to the internet via a firewall, you can block everything you want. You can also install a transparent proxy, and your proxy may well be able to filter content. You could use junkbuster for this. > J'ai pens? ? utiliser des machines virtuelles pour d?l?guer ? > chaque machine virtuelle une portion sp?cifique du syst?me ? > assurer. Of course you can use virtual machines for what you want to achieve, but it seems unnecessary here. > Cette id?e est n?e d'un poisson d'avril (April's fool joke) qui > annon?ait le projet Canterbury, visant ? r?unir le meilleur de > 5 distributions Linux dans une nouvelle distribution. So your idea is born from an April's fool joke, but in the end, it looks like one itself. > En tant que chr?tien, je suis tr?s sensible aux poissons > d'avril qui ont pour objectif de se moquer des chr?tiens. For this sentence, I needed google's translate in order to possibly make sense of it, but then I quite don't. "As a Christian, I am very sensitive to April's fool jokes which aim to make fun of Christians." Well, as a Christian I don't see how this "5 Linux distributions now become one in the Canterbury project" aims to make fun of Christians. Furthermore, there are quite a few possible explainations on how the "April's fool jokes" emerged, but none of the ones I know particularly targets at Christians. You might to choose to explain this sentence again (in English) so that I might have a chance to really understand what you wanted to say. answer from c.roux: ******************* The origin of April's fool jokes is based on 1st of April day, close to Easter. On that day, people stick a fish (symbol of christans) on the back of christians. The joke is the following: try to make beleive false things to those people, in order to discredit christians as people who beleive everything even the resurrection of Christ. ****************** > J'ai donc choisi ces 5 distributions et j'ai fait un prototype > de test 64 bits: > - Archlinux pour l'interface homme-machine et la virtualisation > - Gentoo pour la compilation > - Grml pour les entr?es-sorties > - Open-Suse pour les applications > - Debian pour les applications 32 bits et la mod?lisation So you use 5 distributions in order to do 5 different jobs in one single project. I believe this is an April's fool joke just because it seems so stupid to select 5 different methods of administrating your systems (all those distributions use their own toolset for configuration, apart from Grml and Debian, as Grml is built on top of Debian) just in order to use all of them in one single project. answer from c.roux: ******************* This idea is defined in the April fool's joke: try to use the best of each distribution as specialized in a specific task. ******************* > L'id?e sous-jacente ? ce projet, c'est un module noyau ? > d?velopper qui permettra de router les appels syst?me vers > chaque distribution en fonction du type d'appel syst?me et du > r?le de chaque distribution dans le syst?me. If I understand this correctly, you want to route systems calls to each distribution dependend on the role of the distribution in your project. Somehow, that doesn't make any sense to me. answer from c.roux: ******************* Can you explain why? ******************* > Le pattern MVCA (Mod?le= donn?es, Vue=ihm, Controleur=noyau, > Action=application) est utilis? entre Archlinux, Grml et > OpenSuse. > > Le filtrage de contenu s'effectue entre les applications et les > vues gr?ce au module noyau qui intercepte les donn?es ? filtrer > et les dirige vers un filtreur hors noyau. Le filtreur applique > des outils sur les donn?es pour d?cider si elles seront > autoris?es ou non. Seems you also want to create a kernel module to decide what to intercept when. I don't see how this should be necessary. answer from c.roux: ******************* Can you develop. Any save of time is interesting me. ******************* > Pour d?velopper le filtreur, un nouveau langage, Pmal, est ? > cr?er. On a besoin d'un nouveau langage qui doit ?tre capable > de faire ?voluer ses programmes sans avoir ? les interrompre. > Ce langage sera bas? sur du typage fort, pour assurer la > s?curit? du syst?me. J'ai imagin? un langage de glue pour faire > ?a. For the filter, you seem to want to create a new language (which you call Pmal) that should be able to intercept what a program does without actually disturbing the program. Sounds like "let's reinvent something like strace, but add the possibility to change the system calls' return values on the fly". That's actually something every virtualisation does in some way or another, but not for filtering content, but for intercepting and filtering hardware access. I still think it's better to use junkbuster and friends. answer from c.roux: ******************* I am not a wizard. If I post this message, it is because I need help. ******************* [language specification ideas deleted] > De plus, bien que fortement typ?, ce langage pourra ?tre > ex?cut? par du javascript, If you want to run a language in javascript, you usually aim at running the stuff on the browser end. You should be aware, however, that at the browser end, the USER is in control and can modify your stuff however HE sees fit, especially circumventing any blocking or filtering that happens on that level. answer from c.roux: ******************* Can javascript be used outside a browser? ******************* In the end of the day, I still think I didn't understand what you really want to achieve (no wonder, as I didn't use French in 20 years), but if I understood any of your intentions correctly, I just would think twice if there isn't an easier way to achieve your goals. answer from c.roux: ******************* Thanks for your advices, and I hope to convince you to join the project. ******************* Bye, Thomas -- Thomas K?hler Email: jean-luc(a)picard.franken.de <>< WWW: http://gott-gehabt.de IRC: tkoehler Freenode: thkoehler PGP public key available from Homepage! ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Grml mailing list - Grml(a)ml.grml.org http://ml.grml.org/mailman/listinfo/grml join #grml on irc.freenode.org grml-devel-blog: http://grml.supersized.org/ End of Grml Digest, Vol 95, Issue 9 ***********************************

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using persistence
by John G. Heim 22 Okt '13

22 Okt '13

I can't find any documentation on what persistence can do for me. What can I do with it? What I need to do is create a flash drive that runs a script upon boot. Can I do that? I created a flash drive with persistence but now I'm not sure how to use it. - --- John G. Heim, 608-263-4189, jheim(a)math.wisc.edu

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LANG variable, locales
by adrelanos 15 Okt '13

15 Okt '13

Hi! Would you agree, that a system created by grml-debootstrap should be as close to stock Debian as possible? - In a default Wheezy installation, the LANG variable is set to en_US.UTF-8. - In system created by grml-debootstrap. the LANG variable is empty. Also the output of `locale` differs. [1] Am I missing an option in grml-debootstrap? Should this be added to grml-debootstrap? What is the recommended way (from a Debian derivative perspective) changing the default of `locale`? Cheers, adrelanos [1] Default Wheezy: LANG="en_US.UTF-8" LANGUAGE= LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8" LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8" LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8" LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8" LC_ALL= grml-debootstrap: LANG= LANGUAGE= LC_CTYPE="POSIX" LC_NUMERIC="POSIX" LC_TIME="POSIX" LC_COLLATE="POSIX" LC_MONETARY="POSIX" LC_MESSAGES="POSIX" LC_PAPER="POSIX" LC_NAME="POSIX" LC_ADDRESS="POSIX" LC_TELEPHONE="POSIX" LC_MEASUREMENT="POSIX" LC_IDENTIFICATION="POSIX" LC_ALL=

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(grml-)debootstrap network timeout / retry settings?
by adrelanos 09 Okt '13

09 Okt '13

Hi, is it possible to add apt-like options to (grml-)debootstrap to get higher timeouts / more retries when network is slow / flaky? Options comparable to "--option Acquire::http::Timeout=180" or "--option Acquire::Retries=3"? Cheers, adrelanos

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Grml - new stable release 2013.09 available
by Michael Prokop 08 Okt '13

08 Okt '13

Hi, we just released Grml 2013.09 - Hefeknuddler. This Grml release provides fresh software packages after the Debian stable release (AKA wheezy) has been released. As usual it also incorporates up2date hardware support and fixes known bugs from the previous Grml release. More information is available in the release notes of Grml 2013.09: http://grml.org/changelogs/README-grml-2013.09/ Grab the latest Grml ISO(s) and spread the word! http://grml.org/download/ Thanks everyone and happy grml-ing, -mika-

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