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Chat o.ä von einem Rechner zum anderen im LAN
by Andreas Kalex 13 Apr '07

13 Apr '07

Hallo, wie kann ich in einem einfachen Netz (192.168.0.x) am einfachsten von einem Rechner zu einem anderen chatten bzw. Nachrichten senden/empfangen. Z.B wenn man jmd. anweisen möchte welche Tasten, Menus etc er aufrufen soll. Benötige ich einen chat-server oder irc-server? -- Gruss Andreas

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JFYI: Debian Etch released - consequences for grml hd-installation
by Michael Prokop 08 Apr '07

08 Apr '07

Hi, as you might have noticed Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 (AKA Etch) has been released (http://www.us.debian.org/News/2007/20070408) today. What does this mean for grml? As grml is based on Debian/unstable and stuff has been delayed (either uploaded to experimental or not uploaded at all yet) the unstable pool *might* become less stable than it was within the last months/years. So if you are one of the "I update my box(es) once every few month" users it's probably a good idea to do this right now (or within the next few days). If you do not want or can't upgrade in those days please make sure you at least use stuff like apt-listchanges + apt-listbugs on your system (shipped and enabled by default on grml) when upgrading your system. (Of course using apt-listchanges + apt-listbugs can/should be used all the time, but when upgrading in the next few weeks you should be aware of possible implications more than usual. ;-)) BTW: grml-debootstrap supported Etch as target since I wrote it ;) and of course will continue to do so. Reminder: the grml-user survey is running until 15th of april. If you did not take part in it yet please contribute and help improving grml! => http://grml.org/user-survey/grml.txt JFYI && regards, -mika- -- http://grml.org/ # Linux for texttool-users and sysadmins http://wiki.grml.org/ # share your knowledge http://grml.supersized.org/ # the grml development weblog #grml @ irc.freenode.org # meet us on irc

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version-.h and characters
by martin yazdzik 06 Apr '07

06 Apr '07

cat: /lib/modules/2.6.18-grml/build/include/linux/version-*.h: No such file or directory make.sh: line 525: [: =: unary operator expected cleaning... patching 'highmem.h'... assuming new VMA API since we do have kernel 2.6.x... Assuming default VMAP API Assuming default munmap API doing Makefile based build for kernel 2.6.x and higher Makefile:51: *** mixed implicit and normal rules. Stop. build failed with return value 2 Dear Friends, I know the "mixed..." means there is either a space or missing something, such as & or $ but how can I fix this.... why is there no version.h - I also forgot how to fix this, and used to know... old age is not fun. best to all, m

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booting from external disk
by August C. Quint 04 Apr '07

04 Apr '07

Hi, sorry for the delay but I had some work to do. I've played a bit around and made the following observations: - booting from external hard-disk does not work as described before - boot Windows XP I can boot Windows XP (included with the notebook) from the internal disk, connect the external disk with grml on it via USB and then tell Windows to reboot: voila, it works, after some time I can login. - boot grml from CD I can boot grml from the CD, connect the external disk via USB, login to grml and enter reboot. After removing the CD the system reboots from the external disk - boot Knoppix from CD I can boot Knoppix from the CD, connect the external disk via USB, and tell Knoppix to reboot. After removing the CD the system now boots grml from the external hard-disk. OK, for me this looks like a problem with the notebook. I will contact Medion but I guess they will not be able to answer my questions. Or is there any way to 'work around' this problem? Thanks AugustQ

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How to disable the SMP support in GRML
by Keith Hinton 27 Mär '07

27 Mär '07

I am trying to have a friend of mine with software speech on GRML have SMP shut off on his system. Why is this? Speechd-up and Speech-Dispatcher, have some issues with the threading support in SMP or something, that makes them crash at random, (and only when SMP) is used in the kernel. This bug has existed for a long time, and only some machines are effected while other similar dual-core processers are not. So far, we have tryed the following ordering of options: grml nosmp swspeak, grml swspeak nosmp, swspeak nosmp (without GRML) nosmp swspeak (Again without typing grml first) His box seems to boot fine if you only pass "GRML sswspeak" to it, but if he uses nosmp, the machine seems to freze at the loading of theLinux kernel. Is that chete code broken on GRML0.8 (The version being used)? Have there been any spisific issues that anyone has had with grml and the nosmp option? I could manually shut off SMP support in GRML's kernel, grab the kernel sources, disable SMP, try to figure out how to define "Broken_on_SMP=yes, or whatever, (wich would work fine) But I really do not wish to begin manually compiling the kernel. I can, you understand. But I find it an annoyance to have to spend time downloading the sources for 2.6.17-grml, turning off SMP support, (I am not eaven sure) if the kernel could be recompiled from the CD. Would that work, Mika? Or, would I, (most likely) encounter kernel compilation errors because the CD is being used. Would there eaven be enough space in the LiveCD environment (what get's loaded onto the system) to eaven extract the deb file? Or, would I encounter an error? Probably, I would. That is just my idea on that. Could anyone send me an email about these questions? I have asked multiple questions today, and need more then one answer. I know this started out as an "NoSMP" issue, but I need to also get my questions about the recompilation of the kernel in LivecCD mode being possible or not. I was going to have my friend do the following: rsync to get the deb file from my Gentoo Linux server, then do the following: DPKG -I linux-source-2.6.17-grml_grml.06_all.deb Then, assuming that worked, cd /usr/src/linux cp /boot/config-2.6.17-grml .config make oldconfig && make menuconfig Then finally: make && make modules_install Once the kernel is recompiled, coppy the changed config file back to the /boot folder, erase the deb file, install GRML to the hard-drive, and reboot. This would be better Mika then me making a deb file already, I'd just use the kernel sources long enough to recompile everything. What I am afraid of is that my wonderful idea will fail because I'll be trying to do all this on a running LiveCD. Could you kindly please try to get back to me with any information on the questions about nosmp and kernel compilation, CD-space (when the environment has been uncompressed from squashfs) into memory, etc? Regards, --Keith, KeithNet Network Administrator. Website http://www.KeithNet.DynDNS.0org (If you do not wish to try typing that out) then visit it at: http://www.KeithNet.HomeLinux.com Please feel free to comment in english to me off list, as I rote this by hand. (Is the site accessible with a non WIndows browser?) Can it be visited fine under other systems like Windows? Does the site look visually organized?

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error when using aptitude for upgrade
by Andreas Kalex 26 Mär '07

26 Mär '07

Hi, since 2 days I get an error when upgrading packages via aptitude Reading package fields... Done Reading package status... Done Retrieving bug reports... 0% Error retrieving bug reports Retry downloading bug information?[Y/n]? Answering yes will not work. What/Where is the problem? Andreas

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GRML boot logo.16
by Ing. Diego Cueva 23 Mär '07

23 Mär '07

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Re: booting from external disk
by August C. Quint 23 Mär '07

23 Mär '07

Hi, and thanks Michael for your reply. >> Maybe using Grub instead is worth a try. I think we should first try to solve problem #2. >> Sorry no idea yet. Can you please provide me a screenshot of the >> booting process where it hangs? Sorry, I don't know how to make a screenshot in this stage of booting. And I don't have a digital camera (yet). So I try to write down the lines visible: the last lines before the problem happesn are related to raidx, so here it goes: Success: loaded module raid456 Success: loaded module raid5 Success: loaded module raid6 Modprobe: FATAL: Module raid10 not found Done. Begin: Assemblying all MD arrays ... Now I get 6x the lines: usb 2-2: reset high speed USB device running ehci_hcd and address 2 followed by sd: 0:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x00050000 And this will continue. It looks like it accessed the disk successfully but it tries to access the single disk as a raid-disk in this stage (but I'm no expert here). What can I do? Which information do you need? >> Oh, and you might want to try to use root=UUID=... instead of >> root=/dev/sd[a-z]... so you can make sure your system uses the >> correct device for booting. where do I have to put these modifications (I'm no expert here) ? I guess: I can use Knoppix to boot the machine and look for the file lio.conf (or so) on this external harddisk. Right? AugustQ

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booting from external disk
by August C. Quint 22 Mär '07

22 Mär '07

Hi, I'm looing for a Linux-system that can boot from an USB-hard-disk. Via a Google I found Grml. But I have some problems with this. So please allow me to describe the system, the problems etc. My system: Aldi offered a notebook in may 2006 and I bought one. This is my system, if you need more information about it let me know. What I did: I downloaded the grml.iso-file via grml.gwendoline.at, burned a Cd and started the notebook: works, fine. I added my external hard-disk via USB ( I removed the internal hard-disk for safety, I want to keep the installed XP) and installed the software via grml2hd: works, fine. For a test I stopped the machine, removed the CD and started it again. In the BIOS I've checked 'boot from USB-device' already and voila: it worked. The next day I wanted to do this again: problems. So please allow me to describe my problems. problem #1: the inital screen comes up with the 3 choices. By doing nothing the choice 'grml' was started. Next was a scrren with the text: loading 2.6.18-grml, followed by approx. 180 dots (takes 10 minutes or so). What's this? At the end of this a message was displayed: BIOS data check succesfull (or something similar). Now we come to the booting-process. This works, a lot of lines are running on the screen. But we come to problem #2: a message appears: usb 2-2: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2 This will be repeated multiple times, some other messages are appearing and these messages appear over and over again. One of the messages between is: SCSI-error, return-code = 0x00050000 What's this? Can you please give me a hint. Thanks. AugustQ PS: on my desktop-machine I can easily switch operating system by removing the hard-disk (power off). I'm looking for a similar solution for my notebook. Opening a bay and swapping the disk is possible but I don't want it this way.

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chroot again
by martin yazdzik 21 Mär '07

21 Mär '07

Dear M and friends, Just for information, and please realise I am not complaining: root@grmllap1 ~ # chroot /mnt/sda4 root@grmllap1 / # apt-get update Err http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid Release.gpg Could not resolve 'www.debian-multimedia.org' Err http://ftp.de.debian.org stable Release.gpg Could not resolve 'ftp.de.debian.org' Note that, when my experimental partition(/mnt/sda4) is plain old debian, I do the same thing and can do all package management or upgrades, install drives, and so on, from my working workhorse grml install, but, as now, when the /mnt/sda4 is a grml install, something stops me from using my internet connexion to fetch things. I think it may be a bind issue, or not? At any rate, this means I cannot work on one OS while in the other, which is silly. It obviously has nothing to do with the working grml, because every other one day install, zb, debian, SuSE, Sabayon, lets me use my running connexion to work. All other chrooted commands work, as long as, obviously, they are not x server dependent. Best, martin

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time
by coscell＠mail.batol.net 19 Mär '07

19 Mär '07

Hello, After reboot, the system time is always incorrect. How to adjust it? Thank you!

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Third question
by coscell＠mail.batol.net 15 Mär '07

15 Mär '07

Hello, After startx, the screen disappeared (all black). Why and how to fix it? Thank you! Coscell

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Second question
by coscell＠mail.batol.net 15 Mär '07

15 Mär '07

Hello, After installed gnome-desktop-environment, my computer booted direct into gui. How can I still boot at text mode? Thank you! Coscell

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First question
by coscell＠mail.batol.net 15 Mär '07

15 Mär '07

Hello I'm a new user of grml. I've installed grml into hard disk. First question is: How to set sound volume? Thank you! Coscell

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grml2hd with a preexisting partition
by cmbrannon＠cox.net 11 Mär '07

11 Mär '07

Hi list, I just discovered Grml recently. I want to install it on my laptop's hard drive, using grml2hd. The laptop already runs Slackware 11.0. I chose a really lousy partitioning scheme when I installed Slackware: /dev/hda1, /boot, approx 40Mb /dev/hda2, swap, approx 512 Mb /dev/hda3, /, the remaining 19.5 Gb I don't want to get rid of /home when I install Grml, because it holds several gigabytes of assorted files. Is it possible to make grml2hd install to /dev/hda3 without destroying /home? PS, this is a good argument for having separate / and /home partitions; wish I had done that on the laptop! -- Chris

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time zone configuration, minor problem.
by Doug Smith 09 Mär '07

09 Mär '07

Ok, I am sorry I am writing about this again. However, here's whyu. I pulled in my mail today, and I had 104 messages, most of them absolute and total first order junk. Well, mailfilter to the rescue, and, as far as I know now, I am getting only the messages I want. Well, I need to know how to solve this: I have runb tzconfig as root, and set the time zone to the proper us-eastern. Tzconfig says, on repeated runs that this is what I am set to. However, I still, when running date, get results in CET. My TZ invironmental variable didn't change when I ran the configuration program. Shœuld I just change this variable's value, then run ntpdate on the time server? Thanks. -- Doug Smith: C.S.F.C. Computer Scientist For CHRIST

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minor problem with time zone configuration
by Doug Smith 08 Mär '07

08 Mär '07

--n Tine. I need to correct this before the change to daylight saving time here in the Eastern Us on Saturday night. What do I still need to change. Should I reconfigure locales or what? Thanks. Doug Smith: C.S.F.C. Computer Scientist For CHRIST

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grml2hd: more files not found (was initrd.img not found)
by Hubert Gabler 07 Mär '07

07 Mär '07

Thank you for the hint (initrd), it works now! Another problem occured, here is the genesis: boot greml on hd user: hubert startx working on the graphical destop - ok exit Now, on the console again, I find a dozen error messages like this: Can't load /home/grml/.idesktop/icons/xxxx.png bailing --aterm (or--amix or ... --xterm) Check to see if the image and path to image is valid What can I do to make grml find the directory containig the *.png files? Thank you! hubert

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grml2hd: initrd.img not found
by Hubert Gabler 06 Mär '07

06 Mär '07

I installed grml 0.9 on a free partition and copied the essential lines from grml /boot/grub/menu.lst to my standard menu.lst. It reads now: title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.18-3-486 root (hd0,2) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-3-486 root=/dev/sda3 vga=792 ro initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-3-486 savedefault title 2.6.18-grml root (hd1,3) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-grml root=/dev/hdd4 vga=0x0317 initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-grml savedefault # boot title Windows XP Home root (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 Booting grml does not work because the system cannot find initrd.img-2.6.18-grml. In fact it does not exist in grml's boot file. Where does it hide ?? (I tried to use initrd.img -2.6.18-3-486, grml starts but I get a lot of error messages) Please give me a hint! Hubert

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Re: [Grml] Grub on USB Stick
by Patrick 26 Feb '07

26 Feb '07

Hi Mika On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 21:18 +0100, Michael Prokop wrote: > * Patrick <patritsch(a)gmx.ch> [20070223 17:15]: > > > I'm trying to boot from my USB-Stick. I have an CF-USB adapter 512MB and > > a 4GB Stick. Both have the same problem. After an grml2usb my > > Genode-System won't boot. So I mad it with Grub. > > What does "won't boot" mean? Your box(es) can't boot using > isolinux/syslinux but grub works? Exectly. Syslinux doesn't work. And grub is doing the job.. My laptop have also problems with syslinux... but that's an other story. > Try dropping the 'root (hd0,0)' line and the root=/dev/sda1 > kernel-option of the 'Grml minitrd' section in your menu.lst, AFAICS > your system tries to boot from /dev/sda1 currently. :) Sorry, I don't understand that. Should I remove the 'root (hd0,0)' section and the 'root=/dev/sda1' ?? How should this look like?? Sorry, everything that I emagine, couldn't work. Thanx Pat

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grml2hd / 0.9-3
by Tube 26 Feb '07

26 Feb '07

hi mikap, i miss the option to select the swap partition when installing grml to harddisk. when there is a preformatted swap partition then the auto-fstab-mechanism will surely detect that but when there is not, you have to mkswap manually afterwards. that is a little bit uncomfortable. cheers tube

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virtual x windows server, possible or not?
by Doug Smith 24 Feb '07

24 Feb '07

This is a really strange question, but I feel that it must be answered, either in the positive or negative in order that I might know if I will be able to continue to compute for the forseeable future. What is the possibility of building a kind of x windows server that is really not a window system at all? What I mean is this: For the past 21 years, as of August 18, 2006, I have used computers, and have done so successfully. I have done it all with text-only systems, on which I have been able to run any program that I have wanted to run. Now, we have a problem, and I mean a big one. It is called the graphical user interface. I do not mean to put anyone down, or show disrespect, for the ways in which other people choose to use computers. What I need is a way to make the programs written for the graphical user interface work on the console so that I will not have to make that change in the future to an interface which I really do not like. Is it possible to take those programs and make them work as I want them to, without losing anymore of their functionality, than the graphical part? For example, a javascript-enabled browser such as mozilla or firefox should be able to render its output as text, while still able to perform all of its functionality with the exception of that which directly involves images. Is this possible? What if I want to use an office application, or some kind of video-intensive program, but I only need the messages and other text stuff they put out? What I am asking is this: Since the x-windows libraries, support applications, and other components are on grml, is it possible to use these to make a kind of virtual x server that will render things on the console so that I can continue to use speakup? Speakup is the best speech interface I have used in all the time I have been using computers, and I like it. If there are any takers on the list, that is, sighted people who want to work with me so that we can get this project going, please feel free to contact me. Most sincerely: -- I use grml (http://grml.org/)

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problem with swspeak on amd 64 X 2 dual core.
by Doug Smith 24 Feb '07

24 Feb '07

Ok, here we go again. I have a question to ask you before my wife buys me a new system. She told me that she would get me a new AMD 64 X 2 dual core, and that I can get it in any configuration I want. Of course, I want the media center edition with the radio/tv tuner card, the a/v in and out, and the big drive and boat-loads of memory, but I need to ask you about this: Ok, when I go into any store, this has happened two times in the last couple or three weeks. When I put the disk into the drive on one of the display models and start it back up, right there, in front of everyone in the store, and I am supposed to know what to do with a computer, the swspeak fails. Here's what happens, to the best of my understanding. First of all, my wife along with the store employee are watching to see if the thing will work. Neither of them knows jack swish about a talking computer. Well, everything, as far as the hardware is detected, and it tells me to just run swspeak when the boot sequence is finished, though I never hear this. Well, I just run swspeak when everything is finished. I get a message about having "failed to write 128 samples." Does this have to do with the kind of on-board sound hardware on the machine, or not?:"Should I have this disabled in the bios when I buy the machine, and just put my soundblaster live ls in it or what? Should I run a sound configuration program in GRML to detect this new sound hardware? I just want to know. I hope that there is nothing totally fatal in the system that makes GRML not boot on one of these machines. I really like GRML and plan to use it. Should I not get a system like this, or is there sopme simple fix? Thank you very much. -- I use grml (http://grml.org/)

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Grub on USB Stick
by Patrick 23 Feb '07

23 Feb '07

Hi Together I'm trying to boot from my USB-Stick. I have an CF-USB adapter 512MB and a 4GB Stick. Both have the same problem. After an grml2usb my Genode-System won't boot. So I mad it with Grub. My /boot/grub/menue.lst: title Grml minirt root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinu root=/dev/sda1 ro acpi=off ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init lang=us usb apm=power-off vga=791 nomce BOOT_IMAGE=grml initrd /boot/minirt.img boot I had to make an initrd.img and I made it like wirtten in the wiki: #update-initramfs -u -t -k $(uname -r) I got: Could not stat the resume device file.... /scripts/init-bottom |no such file or directory /root/sys |no such file or directory /proc |no such file or directory so I tried it again with the original minirt26.gz. after a #gzip -d minirt26.gz and renamed as minirt26.img i can boot with grub but I got now only: Could not stat the resume device file.... /scripts/local-bottom |done Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom... mount: Mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev faild: No such file or directory

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Pondering a mid-size grml...
by Juergen Fiedler 20 Feb '07

20 Feb '07

Wouldn't it be nice to have a grml that would fit on an 8cm CD? I'm playing around with adding things to grml_small (being that stipping the big one down seems rather intimidating), but having an official release in the 200M size range would be even nicer. I'm envisioning something that still has the man pages and some basic X tools. The big hurdle for me right now are actually the man pages, being that reinstalling everything just to get the accompanying man pages is a pretty big project - but then again, remastering a Live CD is pretty much supposed to be big. Is there any chance of there being an official release somewhere between grml_small and grml (regular)? Even just a version of small without stuff being stripped post install would be a mightily cool thing. Thanks for a cool distribution :) --j

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