June 2006 - Grml - lists.mur.at

re: grml boot from iso
by boulhian 03 Jul '06

03 Jul '06

You can also boot grml_iso from HD without grml_CD. Condition: you must have a linux partition with grub as linux loader on your HD. Here is a way to do so: 1-copy grml_iso to a partition on HD: (hda5 as example). grml tohd=/dev/hda5 2-reboot to your linux box.(my / is on /dev/hda5). 3-create grml directory in /boot of your linux partition : as root mkdir /boot/grml 4-copy the files "linux26" and "minirt26.gz" from grml_CD/boot/isolinux to /boot/grml 5-edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to add entry for grml. here is as example the entry of grml in my /boot/grub/menu.lst # this entry boot grml from iso_image on /dev/hda5 title Grml root (hd0,4) kernel /boot/grml/linux26 fromhd=/dev/hda5 lang=fr vga=797 ramdisk=100000 initrd /boot/grml/minirt26.gz 6-it's all. reboot and pick Grml at grub menu. Thanks Grml team for the great work.

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Grml philosophy
by T 02 Jul '06

02 Jul '06

Hi there, I'm always interested in pure Debian based Live-CDs. I was half way building my own read-only root fs, when I noticed grml. I wish I had known it earlier. I have to say grml is exactly the type of Live distro that I've been looking for for a long long time. Browsing through the web site, I know it has got lots of publicity in the German speaking world. But I think it lacks the equivalent publicity in the English speaking world. In summary, such nice distro deserved to have more people to know and use... Ok, here are my questions. I'd like to know the philosophy behind the grml releases. I used to use Debian testing, but recently revert to stable because the vulnerability of Debian testing. So you know I'm always on the cautions side. I know Knopsis, Ubunto does a lot of QA testing before the release. How about grml? Seems to me that grml pick its release packages only based on the cut off date. How about the problems/errors that inherited from the packages of the cut off date? Can't imaging so many tools will have one perfect day to be error free. Do you revert several versions back on those packages that have problems? In short, Debian unstable always has the potential to be unstable. What's the mechanism in place for grml to avoid it? thanks tong

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Robust filesystem for power failures
by 27e3kk302＠sneakemail.com 29 Jun '06

29 Jun '06

mlist4suntong wrote: > I have reiserfs for my root fs, but still > that can't sustain the frequent power failure > that I'm having. Read this editorial on ReiserFS power failure issues. http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/reiserfs.html We use Reiser for nonroot partitions, and like it. We wish it were more liked by kernel devs. But it does have power failure issues, if the article is right. Try ext3. Another help against crashes is to move the admin user to a separate /home partition, so you end up with /home/root, /home/user1, /home/user2, etc. Backup and restore of /home partitions is easy. System partition rescue/recovery/rebuild can be done by grml-live-cd or grml2hd independent of /home partition. Current grml does not permit moving the admin user. It's on the wishlist. M.

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too many running services at boot up
by martin yazdzik 28 Jun '06

28 Jun '06

Dear Friends, I admit that you probably do not consider grml the perfect noobie distro, but, since everything works perfectly with no hassles whatsoever, you are going to find yourselves contending with more and more of us. The only thing I wish to change at all, but cannot quite figure out how to do easily is get rid of all the stuff that laptop users hate on boot-up. Yes, I know I could try manually editing the conf files, but am not sure how. Is there a sage way, since the KDE gui does not work, to get rid of stuff like cron, roxen, and so on that are useless and time consuming for lappy users who reboot tonnes of times per diem? Or can one point KsysV to the correct file? There appear to be at least four files in /etc which might be the ones that need be edited, but I am in over my head. Interestingly, install on a sata/atapi machine with a pcie ati video card was a breeze, up and running in less than half an hour, and much, much nicer than the thousand and one debian workarounds, or some of the genuinely eccentric Kanotix "improvements". Anyway, if there is a way simply to comment out the stuff I do not need, I am happy to do that. Very best wishes, Martin

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Read-only root fs
by T 28 Jun '06

28 Jun '06

Hi there. My 4th post here. My questions are: - 1st, does grml support read-only root fs? If not please put it into todo list. Since it is a Live distro, supporting read-only root fs should be trivial, but I need it badly. I have reiserfs for my root fs, but still that can't sustain the frequent power failure that I'm having. - 2nd, an OT question. Does Debian or grml support some kind of integrity test? My current situation is that after so many damn power failures, my lovely Debian is in an unstable stage, commands that used to work are now failing mystically. Re-install the packages that contain those tools won't help. I'm now forced to do a reinstallation after having my ever-upgrading-and-customizing Debian for so many years... I wish Debian or grml has the integrity testing capability that rpm has, ie. to test whether the libs/executables that reside on the disk are still the same as in the package. This might help for situations like what I'm experiencing, or HD failure, and potential compromised systems... thanks

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Re: [Grml] grub?
by Martin Yazdzik 28 Jun '06

28 Jun '06

grub> root (hd0,3) Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 grub> setup (hd0) Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... no Checking if "/grub/stage1" exists... no Error 15: File not found I know I am forgetting something.. sorry. MOn Thursday 04 May 2006 14:08, you wrote: > oh I forgot something :) > > >root (hd0,0) > >setup (hd0) > > on root you have to insert the position of the /boot partition. > > Best regards, > > Tony > > 2006/5/4, Martin Yazdzik <yazdzik(a)nyct.net>: > > Dear Friends, > > > > I have decided, probably against sane better judgement to go to grml as > > my main mission critical OS. > > > > Now, since I have been booting from grub on my other linux partition, I > > wish, obbviously, to boot from the grub files in /boot, as I am going to > > delete the other partition entirely. > > > > I need therefore, to make sure the computer boots from grml before I do > > anything else. > > > > Good old days; grub install /dev/sda > > > > response from grub: > > > > grub> install /dev/sda > > > > Error 12: Invalid device requested > > > > grub> install /dev/hd0 > > > > Error 12: Invalid device requested > > > > grub> > > > > > > > > Have I done something to hurt its feelings? > > > > Best, > > Martin > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Grml mailing list - Grml(a)mur.at > > http://lists.mur.at/mailman/listinfo/grml > > join #grml on irc.freenode.org > > grml-devel-blog: http://grml.supersized.org/ > > -- > Open Source - Open Mind -Try OS-Forge > http://os-forge.net | http://pacms.de > ----------------------------------------------- > Homepage: http://tony-wolf.os-forge.net

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grml2hd
by s. keeling 27 Jun '06

27 Jun '06

I tried grml2hd, told it to install to /dev/hdc2, expecting it to notice it didn't have enough space, and it did notice. I thought it would then ask me if I had any other partitions I wanted to add. It didn't. It wrote it all to hdc2, ran out of space, and reported the installation was successful. Back to the drawing board. Can I edit /etc/grml2hd/config and stuff mount commands in the PREwhatever function there? Where should they be mounted? Is that config file read and used _anytime_ grml2hd is run or only on automatic runs? I hope to have: / /dev/hdc2 /home /dev/hdc3 /usr /dev/hdc6 /var /dev/hdc5 swap /dev/hda7 swap /dev/hdc1 I've already created the partitions and made filesystems on them. I just need them to be there when the installer goes to write the system. Afterwards, I can reboot the CD, mount / somewhere, tweak fstab, and I should be good to go from the installed grml. Anyone ever tried this? If this is currently not possible, I suppose it falls into the wishlist bucket. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling Please don't Cc: me. - -

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ValugCamp2006
by Andreas Fierlinger 25 Jun '06

25 Jun '06

Hallo Leute, Die Linuxwochentour 2006 naehert sich dem naechsten Hoehepunkt - ValugCamp2006. Das Camp findet dieses Jahr zum vierten Mal von Montag 17. bis Sonntag 23. Juli 2006 in Pettenbach im Almtal statt. Wie jedes Jahr gibt es bereits zahlreiche spannende Ideen fuer Workshops und Vortraege - Details findet ihr auf http://camp.linuxwochen.at. Weitere Ideen werden jederzeit gerne entgegengenommen. Das endgueltige Programm wird in Echtzeit vorort nach Lust und Laune gegrillt ;-) Eure Ideen koennt ihr jederzeit online im IRC (irc.freenode.net, #valug) posten, an die Liste liste(a)valug.at senden oder IRL @Pettenbach einbringen. Wir freuen uns darauf viele Camping-FreundInnen zu treffen, um Ideen auszutauschen und gemeinsam zu chillen. lg Andreas Fierlinger p.s.: campwiki : http://valug.at/index.php/ValugCamp2006 gallery : http://www.valug.at/gallery/

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grml boot test report. :-)
by s. keeling 25 Jun '06

25 Jun '06

Hi. While playing with mozilla-mplayer this morning (still trying to find some way to get FIFA videos playing on my box ... Long story), it locked up the video card hard. Couldn't even get to a text console. Great! Time to test out grml. :-) Hardware is a Compaq Deskpro PIII-733, 0.5 Gb RAM, 10 Gb HD on /dev/hda, 2 Gb HD on /dev/hdc, 52x32x52 CD-RW on /dev/hdd. Video is on-board i810 with 4 Mb RAM. grml's lovely, or what I saw of it is. Nothing I did would go anywhere near a framebuffer console. "grml-info" replies: Could not initialize graphics driver fb: Cannot open /dev/fb0. "fbset 1024x768-70" replies: open /dev/fb0: no such file or directory I tried boot options grml lapic vga=791 vga=normal vga=ask fb1024x768 and no joy. Surely I'll find a simple answer in the FAQ, I know. Other things to note include: - on the F9 boot prompt page: "Notice: you this bootoption with care!" s/you/use/ - dmesg reports: VFS: can't find an ext2 filesystem on /dev/hda which is a little odd as I'm using it to type this. :-) After fiddling with grml a bit, I also tried the new gparted-livecd-0.2.5-1.iso I downloaded recently. It found all my ptns on both disks. So, now I'll head off to grml.org and see what the FAQ has to say, but nice job grml guys! I'm looking forward to my next reboot to play with it some more. Have a marvy weekend! :-) -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling Please don't Cc: me. - -

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Re: [Grml] iso_2022
by Michael Prokop 21 Jun '06

21 Jun '06

(Added grml(a)mur.at to Cc: again so we have it in the archives as well :)) * my <yazdzik(a)nyct.net> [20060621 16:51]: > On Wed, 2006-06-21 at 15:37 +0200, Michael Prokop wrote: > > * Martin Yazdzik <yazdzik(a)nyct.net> [20060621 15:08]: > > # grep ja_JP /etc/locale.gen > > ja_JP.EUC-JP EUC-JP > > ja_JP.UTF-8 UTF-8 > > Is this corresponding to what you would like to get? > No, I need the old charset, which, of course, is used by students > in Japan using older machines. Hm, what's the "old charset"? Is it listed in 'dpkg-reconfigure locales'? > > Do you mean X or plain console or both together? :) > X Ok. > > Does "modprobe nls_cp932" help? > That was it, thanks - I win the idiot noob of the year award - > aargh and apologies Credits go to Robert 'bobman' Giebel in #grml ;) > > Does "apt-cache search xfonts-" bring anything useful for you? > > Are the packages chdrv, chdrvfont, xcin useful for you? > (Forgot to install xcin on this box - senility sets in....) Ok :) > > Which erros do you get? > Varies, next time I try one, I'll send you the messages. know > this is not the purpose of the distro, but, nonetheless, you have > made the distro that people like me need to do useful work, so > please be patient with us. np :) > > Do you know the "/usr/include/linux does not link to > > /usr/src/linux/include/linux/" hint from > > http://wiki.grml.org/doku.php?id=grml_0.7 ? > Done that -first thing I do at install! This is the other reason > the distro is so good, the docuementation :) > > Do the packages ttf-junicode, ttf-thryomanes and xfonts-tipa help > > you? > I use thyromanes as the workaround, because the other people who > read the work are most likely to use that - it is the tipa that > does not move from either gui charmap to oo. This may be an oo > issue, as oo has still one or two quirks with fonts. ;) Ok > > > I keep a somewhat accurate collection of the mailing list, but gmane drops > > > things very quickly from their server, so is there a way for us to access the > > > entire set of posts ab initio? > > http://lists.mur.at/mailman/listinfo/grml => > > http://lists.mur.at/pipermail/grml/ > Thanks a million for that. > Mika, as always, you are the best. I'm trying my best. ;) > Greetings from a torrid NYC(I hear Wien is not much cooler) At least in Graz it's not much cooler. ;) regards, -mika- -- You like grml? Help us! http://grml.org/donations/ Already on the grml-user-map? http://www.frappr.com/grmlusers Grml Solutions http://solutions.grml.org/

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