Oktober 2006 - Grml - lists.mur.at

Re: [Grml] BadRam/BadMem Kernelpatch
by devzero＠web.de 01 Nov '06

01 Nov '06

>So IMO this would only be useful for private use. i don`t think so - at least i wouldn`t say it`s only usefule for private use if you mean "home use" - think of developing countries where people cannot afford replacing their ram because of just "one bit out of millions" is bad - think of companies with large test/development environments which are not mission critical. we have many boxes out of service contract at work - and we still use them until they die or getting too old - think of a server which constantly crashes during a recover you try with grml - due to bad ram. should you really buy new ram for that machine if it gets replaced, anyway - and you just need it being running stable for the recovery process ? maybe this is just a theoretical scenario, but the discussion about the pro`s and con`s of badram patch is very controversial. anyway - i heard there will be an request for inclusion into mainline soon. roland > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Andreas Gredler <jimmy(a)grml.org> > Gesendet: 30.10.06 13:55:46 > An: grml(a)mur.at > Betreff: Re: [Grml] BadRam/BadMem Kernelpatch > On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 03:02:15PM +0100, devzero(a)web.de wrote: > > Description: > > > > BadRAM: Linux kernel support for broken RAM modules Summary: This page > > proposes an approach to support RAMs with defective addresses, This > > may open interesting business perspectives, where those RAMs can be > > sold under a white label for less money rather than discarded of > > without any profit. > > If you talk about business... Broken RAM always gets replaced by new > modules, since this is mission critical and covered by warranty and/or > service contracts. Additionally, "real" servers mirror RAM and have spare > RAMs installed. > So IMO this would only be useful for private use. > > greets Jimmy > > -- > Andreas "Jimmy" Gredler > ,'"`. http://www.jimmy.co.at/ | jimmy(a)g-tec.co.at > ( grml.org -» Linux Live-CD for texttool-users and sysadmins > `._, http://www.grml.org/ | jimmy(a)grml.org > _______________________________________________ > Grml mailing list - Grml(a)mur.at > http://lists.mur.at/mailman/listinfo/grml > join #grml on irc.freenode.org > grml-devel-blog: http://grml.supersized.org/ _____________________________________________________________________ Der WEB.DE SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! http://smartsurfer.web.de/?mc=100071&distributionid=000000000066

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Starting domain name service bind failed
by T 01 Nov '06

01 Nov '06

Hi I used to use a caching only name server under Debian. When I start the same setting under grml, I get: % /etc/init.d/bind9 restart Stopping domain name service...: bindrndc: connection to remote host closed This may indicate that the remote server is using an older version of the command protocol, this host is not authorized to connect, or the key is invalid. failed! Starting domain name service...: bind failed! What could be wrong? Or, how to setup a caching only name server under grml? Thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/

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Re: mixing of distributions grml - unstable - testing - sarge for notebook
by Erich Minderlein 31 Okt '06

31 Okt '06

Hello Liste Thank you for the advice I have decided to keep to "grml", so from now the installation will become cleaner and cleaner. What when 0.9 is in the pipeline and comes out? best regards Erich Minderlein

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grml time
by Erich Minderlein 31 Okt '06

31 Okt '06

Hello liste Since the weekend time transition CEST to CET my notebook is 2 hours ahead of local time. How to adjust the time that : hwclock runs GMT local clock shows CEST or CET as needed ? This has been asked when installing, but I did not find any advise how to correct the settings This is surely a FAQ Item best regards Erich Minderlein

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Remastering grml
by Juergen Fiedler 30 Okt '06

30 Okt '06

I think I got the basics of remastering grml down OK: I copy the contents of the squashfs to a writable folder, chroot into it, do whatever I have to do, leave, recompress the image copy it back and rebuild the ISO image. Works well enough. But: The resulting ISO image turns out much bigger than I anticipated. For example, I added a package that takes up about 1.5M on disk, but it increased the size of the ISO by about 14M. I mad sure to call 'apt-get clean' before leaving the chroot and to verify that /var/tmp and /root were empty and yet, there is space wasted that I can't account for. Can anyone give me any pointers as to what I can do to make sure that I don't add unnecessary ballast to my remastered ISO? Thanks, -juergen

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BadRam/BadMem Kernelpatch
by devzero＠web.de 30 Okt '06

30 Okt '06

Hello ! Since grml seems to become more and more THE live-cd for admins, and maybe often being used for recovery purpose to save data from more or less "dead" boxes - did anybody think of taking a look at the BadRam Kernelpatch ? http://rick.vanrein.org/linux/badram/index.html --------------------------------------- Description: BadRAM: Linux kernel support for broken RAM modules Summary: This page proposes an approach to support RAMs with defective addresses, This may open interesting business perspectives, where those RAMs can be sold under a white label for less money rather than discarded of without any profit. Objective of the project My objective is to patch the Linux kernel in such a way that it can handle defective RAM modules. With defective RAM, I mean RAM which has some bits wrong at some (known) addresses. Normally, such RAM is considered useless and thrown away; the larger RAMs get, the higher the chances of failing addresses. With ever growing RAM sizes, it would therefore be pleasant to have an alternative to discarding of defective RAM chips. --------------------------------------- Unfortunately, I don`t have personal experience with this patch (yet), but maybe there are people on this list who know that patch already !? It exists for quite some time and a version for recent 2.6.18 kernel is available. Also, there exists a spin-off project "BadMem" at http://badmem.sourceforge.net/ something useful for GRML ? comments ? regards Roland ______________________________________________________________________ XXL-Speicher, PC-Virenschutz, Spartarife & mehr: Nur im WEB.DE Club! Jetzt gratis testen! http://freemail.web.de/home/landingpad/?mc=021130

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Re: [Grml] BadRam/BadMem Kernelpatch
by devzero＠web.de 30 Okt '06

30 Okt '06

> I'm not a real friend of out-of-tree code, especially if it replaces > *existing* code from mainline. *If* such a patch is really desirable > it should be sent to LKML and walk through the review cycle. Any > single patch differing from mainline makes debugging problems > harder, so I'm quite conservative in accepting patches to main > grml-kernel. ok - quite ok to be conservative - i can understand this. on the other hand with kernel patches it`s often sort of a chicken-egg problem. no mainline inclusion without testing, no testing without mainline inclusion....... yes, but grml is not for testing kernel patches ;) i came across the following posting and contacted the author: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-506388.html think we just should wait for some time...... regards roland ps: anyway - not sure if the BadRam patch changes relevant code-paths if there isn`t "badram=" specified on the commandline. > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Michael Prokop <mika(a)grml.org> > Gesendet: 29.10.06 23:31:18 > An: grml(a)mur.at > Betreff: Re: [Grml] BadRam/BadMem Kernelpatch > * devzero(a)web.de <devzero(a)web.de> [20061029 15:12]: > > > Since grml seems to become more and more THE live-cd for admins, > > and maybe often being used for recovery purpose to save data from > > more or less "dead" boxes - did anybody think of taking a look at > > the BadRam Kernelpatch ? > > http://rick.vanrein.org/linux/badram/index.html > > Yes, I'm aware of that patch. > > [...] > > Unfortunately, I don`t have personal experience with this patch > > (yet), but maybe there are people on this list who know that patch > > already !? > > > It exists for quite some time and a version for recent 2.6.18 > > kernel is available. > > > Also, there exists a spin-off project "BadMem" at http://badmem.sourceforge.net/ > > I'm not a real friend of out-of-tree code, especially if it replaces > *existing* code from mainline. *If* such a patch is really desirable > it should be sent to LKML and walk through the review cycle. Any > single patch differing from mainline makes debugging problems > harder, so I'm quite conservative in accepting patches to main > grml-kernel. > > thx && regards, > -mika- > -- > http://grml.org/ # Linux for texttool-users and sysadmins > http://wiki.grml.org/ # share your knowledge > http://grml.supersized.org/ # the grml development weblog > #grml @ irc.freenode.org # meet us on irc > > <hr> > _______________________________________________ > Grml mailing list - Grml(a)mur.at > http://lists.mur.at/mailman/listinfo/grml > join #grml on irc.freenode.org > grml-devel-blog: http://grml.supersized.org/ _______________________________________________________________________ Viren-Scan für Ihren PC! Jetzt für jeden. Sofort, online und kostenlos. Gleich testen! http://www.pc-sicherheit.web.de/freescan/?mc=022222

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mixing of distributions grml - unstable - testing - sarge for notebook
by Erich Minderlein 29 Okt '06

29 Okt '06

Hallo Liste For the user applications I would like to use as much as possible stable applications, also for a low update rate. (gnome desktop, gdm, evolution...) For the hardware I am forced to use up to date kernel drivers X server etc . I did not succeed up to now to resolve these dependencies. So I cannot use the notebook. Do I need dbus ? it is broken when installing gnome desktop environment. I definitely need udev, but it is also broken. other dependencies may show up when continuing So I cannot use the notebook up to now for user work. how to proceed. best regards -- Erich Minderlein <erminderlein(a)locoware.de> MARC Mannheim Rail Commerce GmbH

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config id used in grml-rebuildfstab
by T 29 Okt '06

29 Okt '06

Hi Currently, grml-rebuildfstab executes '"rebuildfstab -v -r -u $fstabuser -g $fstabuser'" where $fstabuser is the user with the UID 1000. Is this UID 1000, GID 1000 configurable somewhere? thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/

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Re: config id used in grml-rebuildfstab
by Erich Minderlein 27 Okt '06

27 Okt '06

Hallo When I install a regular debian sarge I am induced to enter a non root user to receive certain mails etc. This user has then uid 1000 gid 1000. Since converting old PCs to debian sarge now I own 3 (three) installations where this is my identity and I use it for my regular work. For a new notebook, which does not work with sarge, I choose to use grml, and have not yet come to the point of installing my user account. I have this for purposes like NIS and nfs and I use it for nfs. this habit should be taken into account An user like grml-rebuildfstab who is doing system work should not have an uid gid in the normal user range, but in the range 1-999 my 2cts worth of brain damage best regards -- Erich Minderlein <erminderlein(a)locoware.de> MARC Mannheim Rail Commerce GmbH

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