November 2005 - Grml - lists.mur.at

grml-user map
by Michael Prokop 22 Nov '05

22 Nov '05

Hoi! I just stumbled upon frappr.com and added a map for grml-users: http://www.frappr.com/grmlusers Join us and add yourself! :) regards, -mika- -- ((lambda (foo) (bar foo)) (baz))

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yaird failure in grml-small-0.1y + grml2hd 0.5.5
by Mark 22 Nov '05

22 Nov '05

I've been testing USB hard drive boot with grml-small-0.1y, and Michael has helped - thanks. It's close to solved, but not quite yet. The last thing I tried was a grml2hd 0.5.5 from http://grml.org/tmp/grml2hd_0.5.5_i386.deb which includes the initrd step. It failed as follows: "There was an error running yaird for creating an initrd: create_initrd: 21: command not found: yaird. Sorry" I begin to think grml-small is the wrong test platform. It lacks too many packages and documentation. (I need docs when all I have is a command prompt.) It gets frustrating to constantly wget and apt-get before I can run a script. I wish to stop using grml-small. The only version of grml-big that I have is 0.5. I can install grml2hd 0.5.5 on that, presumably. Someone send email if you have any better thoughts. I am open to suggestions. Thanks- Mark

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Post HD-install again..
by Ishwar Rattan 21 Nov '05

21 Nov '05

The grml version is 0.5 Release Codename Tokolytika [2005-10-24] What should be the contents of /etc/modules file? I just now added autofs4 es1371 parport usb-storage to see if things will change. Syslog does not write anything to /var/log/messages till I start /etc/init.s/syslog-ng start The entries in /etc/runlevel.conf are 20 0,1,6 - /etc/init.d/cupsys 20 0,1,6 - /etc/init.d/autofs and none for hotplug-light and syslog-ng so far I start them by hand. -ishwar

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Re: [Grml] Post HD-install (fwd)
by Ishwar Rattan 20 Nov '05

20 Nov '05

It is looks like that I missed the reply to this post.. Thanks, -ishwar ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 18:13:23 -0500 (EST) From: Ishwar Rattan <ishwar(a)pali.cps.cmich.edu> To: Michael Prokop <mika(a)grml.org> Cc: grml(a)mur.at Subject: Re: [Grml] Post HD-install On Sat, 19 Nov 2005, Michael Prokop wrote: > * Ishwar Rattan <ishwar(a)pali.cps.cmich.edu> [20051119 14:50]: > > > Last night I did a grml2hd install at my home box. It is an > > old Dron based PC with ensoniq-1370 sound card. > > > It comes out that the install different from live-cd. > > The usb storage hotplug does not work any more, it > > was operational in live-cd usage (the usb stick was > > detected at /dev/sda1 and mounted automatically). > > > So, how do I get the functionality back? > > What does "usb storage hotplug does not work any more" mean exactly? > Mounting of usb-stick does not work anymore? The usb-modules aren't > loaded? Which version of grml did you install? Does running 'Restart > hotplug-light' as user root solve the problem? > > JFYI: USB sticks are available through /dev/external1 -> /mnt/external1 > I might have a buggy HD-install. Should I reinstall? I think that usb-modules are not loaded even after starting hotplug-light. It comes out that usb-storage module is not loaded at system boot. Modprobe usb-storage, followed by hotplug-light start works fine. Also, I am confused about entries in /etc/runlevel.conf, the third column has '-' in most of the entries. How is the runlevel (3rd col entry) determined for a service? For services: autofs, cupsys, hotplug-light, syslog-ng as in update-rc.d cupsys defaults 20 does not specify the runlevel of cupsys... My guess for runlevels would be: autofs/3, cupsys/3, hotplug-light/3, syslog-ng/2?? For stopping these services I would guess runlevel 6. Is there a rule of thumb for this decision? Regards, -ishwar

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Post HD-install
by Ishwar Rattan 20 Nov '05

20 Nov '05

Last night I did a grml2hd install at my home box. It is an old Dron based PC with ensoniq-1370 sound card. It comes out that the install different from live-cd. The usb storage hotplug does not work any more, it was operational in live-cd usage (the usb stick was detected at /dev/sda1 and mounted automatically). So, how do I get the functionality back? -ishwar

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Mobile GRML
by Mark 18 Nov '05

18 Nov '05

Hi, GRML is very nice work, my new favorite distro. I'm not a heavy sysadmin; but GRML almost matches some needs here. Since you ask for feedback and wishes...mine relates to grml2hd and the user scenario. The grml-small release is great for USB flash sticks. Thank you for providing that. Consider another scenario with grml-big. Think of a "mobile Linux desktop" on this type of device, http://mobilemag.com/content/100/334/C3401/ http://castle.pricewatch.com/s/search.asp?s=WD+passport&srt=t&his=0&paging=1 These drives have lots of room for less money than flash, without lifespan problems. They sell around US$120 and get cheaper all the time. They allow a mobile user to carry his entire desktop and data between home, work, school, friends, hotel. Let other people carry laptops around, you can boot them too. GRML doesn't load down heavy stuff in advance, which I like. After GRML installs, I can add GNOME or KDE per user requests. So, I ran grml2hd to a drive and rebooted...but got a kernel panic. No SCSI, I guess. Next I followed verbatim FAQ instructions, to test the FAQ. Nothing worked. grml2hd makes the same assumption of all installers: if the OS is going to hard disk, it can ditch drivers and keep only the running system. For example even yaird boasts of doing "a better job of deciding which modules are needed for your system, so it produces smaller images." Culling is evil for the mobile scenario. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but... Ideally a mobile user boots like the CD-ROM (same ramdisk-based autodetection?), but without compressed CD images, ISOLINUX, or loopback tricks. The mobile user just needs Debian with full hardware auto-detection and all hardware modules. I would prefer h/w autodetection even on IDE drives inside tower PC cases. That way I can swap boards, memory, ethernet, etc. without breaking configs. I can drop the IDE drive into a USB enclosure for instant mobility. A few other other ideas: - the status line at bottom of screen shows date/time *twice* (?!?) - show IP on the status line (w/ flag for DHCP or static) - grml2hd could offer multi-partition features, e.g. a separate boot partition - grml2hd could set up secure partitions -- http://mareichelt.de/pub/texts.cryptoloop.php -- optional choice for all top-levels /home /var and such, except /boot - grml2hd's X question for the mobile scenario is puzzling; yes the user needs X, but not for a specific PC - grml-big won't fit on CD-RW media or older (650 MB) CD-R; would be nice to fit on CD-RW, could trim a little to fit Thanks...GRML is super and I like it. Mark

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Again..
by Ishwar Rattan 16 Nov '05

16 Nov '05

Thanks for the ~/.Xresources hint for font size. Also printer works with old (as in not new) deskjet driver in CUPS. So far, everything works great. -ishwar

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grml 0.5 released
by Michael Prokop 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

Hoi grml-users, -tester and developers, grml 0.5 with codename Tokolytika has been released! Tokolytika is release with a lot of new features! A german release announcement is available in my personal weblog: http://www.michael-prokop.at/blog/?p=432 The official release announcement providing all the relevant news is available at: http://grml.org/files/README-0.5.txt Issues regarding the release can be found in the grml-wiki at: http://wiki.grml.org/doku.php?id=grml_0.5 Thanks to all of you who helped to improve grml! Special thanks go to Mark Riedesel for providing the rocking wallpaper! Have fun and enjoy the new release! Feedback is welcome of course. regards, -mika- -- http://grml.org/ # Linux for texttool-users and sysadmins http://wiki.grml.org/ # share your knowledge http://grml.supersized.org/ # the grml development weblog #grml @ irc.freenode.org # meet us on irc

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Re: [Grml] wishlist for grml 0.6
by Michael Prokop 10 Nov '05

10 Nov '05

* Jürgen 'Stormchild' Oesterle <stormchild(a)online.ie> [20051107 19:15]: > Am Sun, 6 Nov 2005 14:23:50 +0100 Michael Prokop <mika(a)grml.org> schrieb: [...] > > Warum ich w3m mit Introseite für grml(-large) [bei grml-small landet > > man sowieso direkt in der zsh] aktiviert habe: User sollen nicht > > ohne Dokumentation dastehen. Vor allem grml-Neulinge sollen einen > > Einstiegspunkt haben. Und wichtige Neuigkeiten zur Release bekomme > > ich auch schön unter. (/etc/motd wäre natürlich für die Doku an sich > > auch ausreichend, aber es gibt da weder das nette Konsolenbild vom > > grml-Logo noch kann man direkt auf die Doku via Links zugreifen und > > mehr als 1 Seite passt auch schlecht rauf. ;-)) > > Wer für die Problematik aber einen anderen Ansatz hat (gerne auch > > via /etc/motd oder ähnlichem): bitte melden. :) > Wie wärs mit w3m auf Konsole 2 und ein motd auf Konsole 1 daß man > mit ALT-F2 eine schicke Hilfe bekommt? > Oder die F1-Taste mit der Hilfe belegen. Oder so..... http://grml.org/tmp/fastboot.png Wie gefällt dir das als erster Entwurf? :) Ist bei der nächsten grml-Develrelease dann natürlich schon dabei. mfg, (-: Michael -- http://grml.org/ # Linux for texttool-users and sysadmins http://wiki.grml.org/ # share your knowledge http://grml.supersized.org/ # the grml development weblog #grml @ irc.freenode.org # meet us on irc

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wishlist for grml 0.6
by Michael Prokop 08 Nov '05

08 Nov '05

Hoi grml-users! As the traffic on this mailinglist is quite low I'd like to ask you for some feedback. What do you especially like at grml 'tokolytika' 0.5? Anything you don't like at grml 0.5? What features are you missing? What do you expect from grml 0.6? Do you have any special wishes? Thanks for your feedback! regards, -mika-

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