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network boot with nfs4 root
by Joerg Dorchain 06 Feb '13

06 Feb '13

Hello, I tried to setup a boot server with pxe. I followed loosely the wiki http://wiki.grml.org/doku.php?id=terminalserver for that. So far all went fine, except mounting the root over nfs4. My nfs server is version4 only, and from packet logs I see that grml tries nfs version3 only over and over. Is this a bugs or is there some trick for get it to work with nfs4? Also, as I am using the grml96 iso image via a loopback mount, I would greatly appreciate if I could use the bootmenu for isolinux also for pxelinux. To me it seems it is mainly a matter of pathnames (and maybe symlinks) to get it to work with a statement like LABEL grml-from-iso CONFIG <iso-root>/boot/isolinux/<common.cfg> APPEND <<iso-root> from pxelinux.cfg Bye, Joerg

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zsh history completion via arrow keys
by John 24 Jan '13

24 Jan '13

Just discovered grmlzshrc and am loving it. One thing I cannot seem to figure out though is how to enable zsh history completion on up arrow that reads what I have typed and only completes matches? For example, I type: % vim ~/bin <<UPARROW>> The expected behavior is to autocomplete entries that begin with 'vim ~/bin' but that isn't what happens. When I hit UPARROW the auto complete lists shows anything that started with 'vim ' which ignores the ~/bin bit. I am using Arch Linux and the Distro provided grml-zsh-config package. The only configuration I have done is to copy /etc/skel/.zshrc to ~ Thank you!

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GRML Accessibility
by simon.eigeldinger＠vol.at 18 Jan '13

18 Jan '13

Hi all, Just for the list cause it seems John and Gilberto haven't sent their messages over the list. I'm forwarding John's message here. The old instructions don't work anymore a quite long time as far as i know. Greetings, Simon --- Forwarded Message --- From: "John G. Heim" <jheim(a)math.wisc.edu> Subject: RE: [Grml] does grml still include speakup? Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:35:54 -0600 To: "'Simon Eigeldinger'" <simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at> There is a page on the wiki for the International Association of Visually Impaired Technologists on using the accessibility features of grml (including speakup). http://wiki.iavit.org/index.php/Accessing_grml -----Original Message----- From: grml-bounces(a)ml.grml.org [ mailto:grml-bounces@ml.grml.org] On Behalf Of Simon Eigeldinger Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 3:10 PM To: grml(a)ml.grml.org Subject: [Grml] does grml still include speakup? Hi all, Anyone knows if grml still contains speakup in the images? and if yes how to start that? i seem have to forgotten how to start it. greetings, simon -- Simon Eigeldinger Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/domasofan/ E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at MSN: simon_eigeldinger(a)hotmail.com ICQ: 121823966 Jabber: domasofan(a)livejournal.com _______________________________________________ Grml mailing list - Grml(a)ml.grml.org http://ml.grml.org/mailman/listinfo/grml join #grml on irc.freenode.org grml-devel-blog: http://blog.grml.org/

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does grml still include speakup?
by Simon Eigeldinger 18 Jan '13

18 Jan '13

Hi all, Anyone knows if grml still contains speakup in the images? and if yes how to start that? i seem have to forgotten how to start it. greetings, simon -- Simon Eigeldinger Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/domasofan/ E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger(a)vol.at MSN: simon_eigeldinger(a)hotmail.com ICQ: 121823966 Jabber: domasofan(a)livejournal.com

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GDM_KEYBOARD_LAYOUT us intl
by gilberto dos santos alves 31 Dez '12

31 Dez '12

it is possible use this with grml? because we need some chars like çÇõãÕÃ using utf-8? here is hardinfo environment vars in my debian squeeze 6.0.6 GDM_KEYBOARD_LAYOUTus intlGNOME_KEYRING_PID4846USERusradmHOME/home/usradm XDG_SESSION_COOKIE 8d20ede7783eb969b5343a030000000a-1356819828.797668-1398737120DESKTOP_SESSION gnomeGTK_MODULEScanberra-gtk-moduleGNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL/tmp/keyring-KUSiCV LOGNAMEusradmUSERNAMEusradmWINDOWPATH7GDM_LANGpt_BR.utf8PATH /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/gamesDISPLAY:0.0LANG pt_BR.utf8XAUTHORITY/var/run/gdm3/auth-for-usradm-QmVXyF/databaseSHELL /bin/bashGDMSESSIONgnomePWD/home/usradmXDG_DATA_DIRS /usr/share/gnome:/usr/share/gdm/:/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/PYTHONPATH /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/gammuSSH_AUTH_SOCK /tmp/keyring-KUSiCV/sshSSH_AGENT_PID5245DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-bCkKVvKSPq,guid=301a8e7eeb51b495aa132bce000012ca GPG_AGENT_INFO/tmp/seahorse-W7jZ6V/S.gpg-agent:5259:1 GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_IDthis-is-deprecatedSESSION_MANAGERlocal/brzpc2012w5:@ /tmp/.ICE-unix/4871,unix/brzpc2012w5:/tmp/.ICE-unix/4871ORBIT_SOCKETDIR /tmp/orbit-usradmGTK_RC_FILES/etc/gtk/gtkrc:/home/usradm/.gtkrc-1.2-gnome2 thanks? -- gilberto dos santos alves +55.11.98646-5049 são paulo - sp - brasil

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grml2hd
by Chaitat Pi 30 Dez '12

30 Dez '12

Dear Grml I have been using Grml as my desktop environement for many years already. Just recently I got a new computer so I had to set up my new machine. I downloaded grml 2012.05 and found out that I couldn't find grml2hd anymore. I went through your FAQ but it only talked about how to install Debian. What should I do to have a Grml desktop? - apt-get install grml2hd and use grml2hd as before? - install Debian and run *some???* script to have all luxury Grml's super special configurations? How? Thank you very much. -- chaitat

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Thai characters are displays as squares
by Chaitat Pi 25 Dez '12

25 Dez '12

Dear Grml I thoroughly understand that Grml doesn't support installation on harddisk (grml2hd). It is ok if you won't fix it. I just would like to inform you. And if it is easy to fix, I just wish maybe you would consider it. Grml 2012.05 32-bit Running as a live system, inside grml-x, it displays Thai characters properly as in screenshot grml-x-livecd.png . Running from harddisk (grml2hd), inside grml-x, it doesn't display Thai characters properly. It shows square letters instead as in screenshot grml-x-grml2hd.png . This has never happened before with other version of Grml I have been using (grml2hd). I just think that grml2hd just installs the same state as the running live Grml into harddisk. Maybe there are some more complex tasks involved? Maybe it is easy to fix? Maybe not? As I already mentioned above, I won't be upset if you won't fix this. Merry X'mas ; )))) I love Grml. -- chaitat

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Does speakup continue to work in grml after installation to hard drive?
by Doug Smith 19 Nov '12

19 Nov '12

To whom it may concern: I am attempting to get an answer to a question before I change back to permanently using grml as my production os. Does speakup screen reader continue to work in grml 12.05 after it has been installed on the hard drive? There was a previous version I tried and, after installation, I couldn't get it to talk again. I hope this one will. Thanks for your help. -- Doug Smith: Special Agent S.W.A.T Spiritual Warfare and Advanced Technology Forever serving our LORD and SAVIOUR, JESUS CHRIST.

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disable remove media message at shutdown / restart
by Kaj Kunstheim 19 Nov '12

19 Nov '12

Hello, I just build a customized grml-iso withgrml-live. When I shutdown or restart my fency custom grml I get a messages which tells me to remove the usb-stick and hit enter (auto shutdown / reboot within 2 minutes). Is there any way to disable this behavior? Cheers Kaj

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Re: [Grml] errormessage at the start
by didi.segbert＠arcor.de 05 Nov '12

05 Nov '12

## Originalempfaenger: mika(a)grml.org Hello Mika, thanks for your answer. I have done a aptitude update and aptitude safe- upgrade, but the version of grml-autoconfig ist 9.51. In my sources-list ist the adress http://deb.grml.org/ grml-stable. Must i change the above adress? Dietmar > mika(a)grml.org schrieb am 04.11.12: > Hi, > [explicitely Cc-ing you as you sent your mail to grml(a)mur.at > AFAICS, which is the old mailing list - > http://ml.grml.org/mailman/listinfo/grml is the new one - and I > just want to make sure my mail reaches you.] > * Dietmar Segbert [Sun Nov 04, 2012 at 07:22:00AM +0100]: >> i use grm squeeze on my netbook asus 1005ha-m. >> If the system starts there is the following errormessage: >> /etc/grml/autoconfig.functions: line 45: local: can only be used >> in a /function >> /etc/grml/autoconfig.functions: line 1446: syntax error near >> unexpected /token `newline' >> /etc/grml/autoconfig.functions: line 1446: ` get_remote_file >> "$URI" /"/dev/null" >/dev/null 2>&1 &!' >> Can i you help me? > Please try upgrading to grml-autoconfig v0.9.60 and report back > whether this fixes your issue. > regards, > -mika-

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errormessage at the start
by didi.segbert＠arcor.de 04 Nov '12

04 Nov '12

Hello, i use grm squeeze on my netbook asus 1005ha-m. If the system starts there is the following errormessage: /etc/grml/autoconfig.functions: line 45: local: can only be used in a /function /etc/grml/autoconfig.functions: line 1446: syntax error near unexpected /token `newline' /etc/grml/autoconfig.functions: line 1446: ` get_remote_file "$URI" /"/dev/null" >/dev/null 2>&1 &!' Can i you help me? Regards Dietmar

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locale and keyboard layout grml
by gilberto dos santos alves 01 Nov '12

01 Nov '12

hi. i use grml since 2010 and lot of times i recovery servers, linux, windows etc. here in brazil we use pt_BR (with locale latin1 or utf8). in debian/ubuntu we use us international keyboard layout for produce characters like (~, ç, ã, õ, á, à etc). in pt_BR keyboard layouts we have abnt and abnt2 (associação brasileira de normas tecnicas www.abnt.org.br). debian and ubuntu already handle this ok. Please i not understant grml.org docs for procedures that create these for grml. it is possivel include these possibilities of keyboard and locale? best regards from brazil! -- gilberto dos santos alves +55.11.98646-5049 são paulo - sp - brasil

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Request for help: Persistency on Grml
by Michael Prokop 11 Jun '12

11 Jun '12

Hi! As you might know Grml provides a feature named persistency which allows you to store your settings/software and reuse them on reboot. The code that provides that feature is part of Debian's live-boot, which is what we're using as base for our live-boot-grml. The relevant bootoption was renamed from "persistent" to "persistence" by Debian's live-boot developers recently, sadly our docs at http://wiki.grml.org/doku.php?id=persistency don't match reality anymore. As Charles Hewson already noted in the Grml wiki (thanks, Charles!) the best resources WRT persistency are man live-boot, live-persistence.conf and live-snapshot as well as http://live.debian.net/manual/html/live-manual/customizing-run-time-behavio… Note: the live-manual matches the behaviour of the old "persistent" code, not the one with "persistence" yet. A discussion around those changes are available in the thread at https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2012/04/msg00110.html Is there anyone willing to help us in improving the persistency documentation for Debian/Grml? regards, -mika-

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New Grml developer: Markus Ulrich
by Michael Prokop 06 Jun '12

06 Jun '12

Hi Grml-ers, I'm happy to be able to announce that Markus 'bionix' Ulrich just joined the Grml team. Please welcome Markus as offical Grml developer. Welcome in the team, Markus! regards, -mika-

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Grml - new stable release 2012.05 available
by Michael Prokop 30 Mai '12

30 Mai '12

Hi, we just released Grml 2012.05 - Ponyhof. Thanks for all the feedback we received for our 2011.12 release, we took it serious and hope that everyone finds 2012.05 such a wonderful release as we consider it to be. There were some changes between 2012.05-rc1 and the new stable release. The most important ones are: • Update to Kernel 3.3.7 • Added sysstat (and imvirt-helper was pulled in as dependency) • Fixed Grub2, iPXE and MirOS bsd4grml boot options for 64bit ISO • Added wallpaper • Fixed lang boot option for grml-small flavour As you might notice the grml-small flavour came back. So it's two flavours (grml-full + grml-small) and two architectures (x86 + amd64) now. The grml96 option - which provides the x86 and the amd64 version on one single ISO (grml96 = grml32 + grml64) - is available for your service as well. We want to thank all the people involved in this awesome release. The Grml Developers, our Contributors and all the other people involved in this release. More information is available in the release notes of Grml 2012.05: http://grml.org/changelogs/README-grml-2012.05/ Now download the latest Grml ISO and spread the word! http://grml.org/download/ regards, -mika-

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First Release Candidate of Grml version 2012.05 released
by Michael Prokop 25 Mai '12

25 Mai '12

Hi, so we did it again, the first release candidate of the upcoming version 2012.05, code-named 'Ponyhof' was just released. For detailed information about the changes between 2011.12 and 2012.05 have a look at the official release announcement: http://grml.org/changelogs/README-grml-2012.05-rc1/ Several tools that have been reported to be missing on the downsized 2011.12 release have been re-added. This release also brings the grml-small flavour back to life. Please test the ISOs and everything you usually use and report back, so we can complete the stable release soon. If no major problems come up, the next iteration will be the stable release, which is scheduled for end of May. regards, -mika-

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New Grml developer: Evgeni Golov
by Michael Prokop 16 Mai '12

16 Mai '12

Hi Grml-ers, I'm proud to be able to announce that the Grml team just grew again: Please welcome Evgeni 'zhenech' Golov as official Grml core developer! Welcome in the Grml team, Evgeni! regards, -mika-

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Testing current daily ISOs to go towards new release
by Michael Prokop 15 Mai '12

15 Mai '12

Hi, the current Grml daily ISOs (http://daily.grml.org/) feature a fresh 3.3.4 Linux kernel and I plan to work towards a 2012-05-rc0 release throughout the next days. Everyone who wants to see 2012-05-rc0 actually happen is invited to grab the current daily ISOs (the testing flavours of grml-full + grml-small, 64bit and 32bit) and report any issues we should address before releasing rc0. Let's get ready to rumble :) regards, -mika-

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making hardware speech work
by John Heim 14 Mai '12

14 Mai '12

I was wondering if the grml team would be interested in making hardware speech work in grml. I have a kernel patch that fixes a problem in the linux screen reader, speakup, to make it work with certain hardware speech synthesizers. I don't know how to get it into the actual kernel code and I haven't even tried yet. But the patch file can be downloaded here: http://www.math.wisc.edu/~jheim/downloads/patch-2012-03-06.patch Then you cd to your linux source dir and do this: patch -i patch-2012-03-06.patch drivers/staging/speakup/serialio.c" If you do that, you could also include a udev rules file that starts speech automatically if certain hardware synths are connected at boot time. That file is here: http://www.math.wisc.edu/~jheim/downloads/10-speakup.rules

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planning to switch back, a couple of questions
by Doug Smith 14 Mär '12

14 Mär '12

Ok, and hi, there. This is Doug with a bit of good news. One of your blind grmlers is coming home. I just have to know the answers to a couple of questions, and I will give you the reason why I decided to take the nestea plunge, so to speak. First of all, I know how to start speakup on the live cd. press q and return to be sure you're out of that quick config menu and can work in the console. modprobe speakup_soft; espeakup Then hit return twice. What I want to know is this: How can I have an accessible login that will start speaking when I need to log in on a hard disk installation of grml? Don't worry, I have performed a blue billion of these and I know just how to avoid accidents. I know you do not necessarily encourage installs. The next question I have is this: What happens on a hard disk install? For example, I have everything talking when I install. Will it still be there when I reboot the installed system? If yes, then great. If not, all my work will not be in vain, grml is always better to me than that. I have always been able to get myself out of messes. My next question is: if I need to put speakup_soft start = 1 in the /etc/modules file so that it will be loaded on startup, that's no problem. The question is where do I put the startup for espeakup so that it comes up talking at the login screen? If that's not the solution, will I still have the four beeps when grml has finished booting? Now, the final question. Are there any other blind grmlers who are using edbrowse? The reason I wonder about all this is because I have found it supports javascript. I hope it will work on radio station sites and other sites with streaming media when using mplayer to actually play the media. Is this true? Will I be able to stream radio stations live, use http://www.dishonline.com, access my http://www.learningally account, play internet radio on http://www.jango.com, watch youtube videos and videos from http://www.nascar.com if I use mplayer to actually play the streams and fix this in the configuration file? I have read, over there on the speakup mailing list about people who use latex for their formatted writing projects. They say its better than any word processor on the commercial market today. How do you view the formatted results of your work with a command line program? What do you use? Well, that's about all I have to ask for now. Now, I want to tell you why I decided to finally try to come back home. In the GUI world, there are many changes going on on. Right now, it's broken this and inaccessible that. Not only that, I am sick and tired and fed up to here with graphical interfaces. I have had to use them for the last couple or three years, and that is just so unnatural to me, a person who was raised on the command line. The common response to this is: "We have had the command line since day one and we have been trying to get away from it since day two." Well, I respond this way: You have had the graphical interface since day 2 and I have been trying to get away from that since day 2.5. It is just so unnatural to go tabbing and arrowing around and alt-tabbing and shift-tabbing and control-shift-tabbing around to get an app to work. I just like the good old program options files and off it goes to do my bidding. If I can get answers to these questions, I will be coming back soon. I hope to bring some other blind people with me in the future. Well, that should do it for now. I am sure you are tired of reading my ramblings. Please get back to me as soon as possible. Sincerely yours: Doug Smith

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lynx browser and playing audio
by didi.segbert＠arcor.de 10 Mär '12

10 Mär '12

Hello, i have installed grml squeeze on my netbook. I use lynx as browser. If i try to play a mp3-file or an other audio-file out of lynx, the alsaplayer will be started, bat a error appears on the bootom of lynx. If i look in /tmp/user/1000/ there is a tempory file of the audio-file mit the extension ".m4a". any ideas? What can i do or what is the mechanismus of lynx to play audio and to create the file "*.m4a"? Thanks for your help. Regards Dietmar

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loop-AES removed: PANIC
by Fog_Watch 07 Mär '12

07 Mär '12

I downloaded Knecht Rootrecht overnight, booted it this morning and thought I'ld just check whether it still contained loop-AES. It doesn't. IT DOESN'T. AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. First, Knoppix, now GRML. PANIC. Loop-AES is fast, efficient, cool, essential and all my software and data sit on it. Breathe deeply. I'm calming down now. Please, maintainers, may I have loop-AES back? Regards Fog_Watch -- "A. Because it breaks the logical order of conversation. Q. Why is top posting bad?"

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LINUX 26 Kernel vs live 2011.12
by Everett Bennett 07 Mär '12

07 Mär '12

Is there an easy way to install and add the linux26 kernel to the current grml-live version? Everett Bennett, Jr.

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Updating USB stick with persistency option?
by Stefan Weiss 28 Feb '12

28 Feb '12

Hello. I'm trying out to the persistency feature for the first time. I had a 4GB USB stick lying around, so I'm following the example in the wiki more or less verbatim. What I'm wondering is, can this USB stick be updated when the next Grml version is released? Up until now, there was never any user data on the stick (or CD), but now there could be something worth preserving in $HOME. I'm not sure how exactly the persistency snapshots work, but I guess simply running grml2usb with the new ISO won't be enough. It's no big deal if an update isn't possible. I'll expect there will only be a couple of shell scripts and .debs in my $HOME, and I can easily transfer them to a different partition before updating. If that's the case, should I wipe the home-rw, live-rw, and GRMLCFG partitions when I install the new ISO? Thanks, stefan

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Re: [Grml] Updating USB stick with persistency option?
by Stefan Weiss 27 Feb '12

27 Feb '12

On 2012-02-27 15:35, William Gardella wrote: > Stefan, > > In my experience and understanding, Debian Live persistence does present > some issues with upgrading the underlying live system. The files found > in snapshots/persistence partitions always pre-empt their equivalents on > the image, which Debian Live seems to always assume to be older than the > snapshot. So if you have been apt-get upgrading and installing lots of > software to live-rw, for example, that will prevent any newer package > versions on the ISO from being seen. With home-rw, there shouldn't be > as big of a headache, but of course if you have altered the > grml-installed configuration files, those versions will remain and > preempt the ISO (you will have to copy over new grml user configuration > manually if you want it). I don't know about GRMLCFG because I don't > use it, but my guess would be that it will continue to replace the > relevant bits of /etc/ exactly as it did on your previous ISO version. > > So I guess it will probably save some headaches to wipe live-rw, but > home-rw should be okay. > > Best, > Will Thanks, that makes sense. I think I'll just play it safe and wipe all the snapshot partitions before I upgrade. It's unlikely that I'll make major adjustments to the system anyway, apart from installing a few packages and storing shell scripts in $HOME. - stefan

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