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sarge and kernel 2.6.18-grml on amilopro : LAN , zsh
by Erich Minderlein 17 Jan '07

17 Jan '07

Hallo > > zsh > > apart from not being able to work efficiently on this subject: > uhm, sorry, what does this mean? not zsh but Think of : do something under sarge locally, e.g. currently I find out what the grml-kernel does or does not do with the sarge system, find out that you need a file from internet or lan , reboot with grml livecd, mount your hd, chroot, do your aptitude thing, reboot from harddisk, continue with do something, .. 10 minutes later the same ... as I cant get ethernet-lan with the grml-kernel and sarge system to work > zsh-FAQ 3.21 <http://zsh.sourceforge.net/FAQ/zshfaq03.html#l38>: (I will put in its config) thanks, Erich

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sarge and kernel 2.6.18-grml on amilopro : LAN , zsh
by Erich Minderlein 17 Jan '07

17 Jan '07

Hallo I have taken up again on this subject. LAN My first problem is that I cannot have ethernet connection on the LAN. Anything I install or transfer over net I must do or install in a grml-LiveCD CHRoot environment. there the networking worked. /etc/iftab, ifrename is installed, the wlan driver is very active, but I have no wlan, and the eth0 does not load . Wha cann I take from grml to get sarge working ? zsh apart from not being able to work efficiently on this subject : I changed the default shell for my accounts to zsh, and I want the historylogging enabled, and syntax-hilighting (also for vim), and the intelligent tab completion of grml all best systemwide. Other problems then will come up. Thanks in advance -- Erich Minderlein <erminderlein(a)locoware.de> MARC Mannheim Rail Commerce GmbH

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Debian Etch and grml
by Mark 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

Since grml is based on Debian "unstable" I guess Etch will not affect it. Is this true? Or, will many packages will move from "experimental" to "unstable"? My translation of Debian's strata are stable --> ancient and full of bugs, but patched testing --> less ancient, less bugs unstable --> current and basically stable* (grml) experimental --> might be buggy, package version conflicts abound * Oxymorons abound: "Software packages uploaded to unstable are normally stable versions" :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian M

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Re: Re: Debian Etch and grml
by Erich Minderlein 15 Jan '07

15 Jan '07

Hi I would like to point to the Discussion thread which we had in November 2006. I have forcibly new hardware, do development work but for embedded and my internal applications and not for etch. I prefer stable, because I am not in a position (capability and time) to pinpoint to problems and do not want my business performance be interrupted in the public by "but it did work until the upgrade". Think of making a presentation ..... Think of people YOU have to pay. It was pretty tough to switch from SusE 7.3 to debian sarge, which installed and ran relatively flawless on my older hw. (desktop + server, xterminals, project begun in Nov 2004, end in April 2006) Why not OpenSuSE : because I just run away from SuSE , with its constant changes and frequent updates. And now it is embraced by the Dollar freak anaconda and will be choked to death and swallowed. My experience with all multimillion $ US vampyrs: dont get even close! The vacuum cleaners of information and they dont leak anythink out. Why not ubuntu : I want a root password for security. Only single users may do so, If you run the risk of having someone else sitting on your keyboards : dont do it. Grüss Gott -- Erich Minderlein <erminderlein(a)locoware.de> MARC Mannheim Rail Commerce GmbH

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New BIOS
by Mark 09 Jan '07

09 Jan '07

Does anyone boot grml on PCs with non-traditional BIOS? EFI (Intel Macs?), Sun Open Firmware, LinuxBIOS, etc. LinuxBIOS http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/11/30/199208 Sun released Open Firmware under BSD license. The One Laptop per Child project uses it (with LinuxBIOS too) http://www.mail-archive.com/devel@laptop.org/msg01849.html Linus thinks little of EFI. http://kerneltrap.org/node/6884 If anyone boots grml on any of this stuff, please relate how it works for you, and grml dev comments are welcome regardless. Thanks

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Recommended source.list and apt (pinning) setting for HD install?
by "Robert Zöhrer | pronet.at" 08 Jan '07

08 Jan '07

Before 'grml2hd-utils' could fetch packets (e.g. for multimedia stuff) I had to modify my default? source.list by activating ---------- # MPEG, divx...: deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main deb-src http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main --------- in this case. Because I'm still using default (at installation time) settings for source.list and apt-pinning (preferences) Question: Is there a recommended way of setting up (and maintain) packet assortment on a grml-HD-installation? I'm searching for a solution to permanently void packet chaos (maybe) caused by incompatible packet / repository dependencies when using (complex) pinning as it is at grml. -- regards Robert

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Backup job default enabled
by "Robert Zöhrer | pronet.at" 05 Jan '07

05 Jan '07

Hi, yesterday I noticed a sytem freeze of my grml HD installation on my Thinkpad. After a little time of puzzling I detected a full (100%) root partition :/ I thougt: Who the f*** has filled up the (before) remaining 2 GB of space? -> It was a default enabled? backup job (backup-manager?) who backed up /home /etc and some other stuff in /backup :( In principle (automatic) backups is a good cause and this default enabled backup job is well meaning but as we see in this example it could be problematic. Backing up on same physical disk doesn't make lots of sense anyway. Conclusio: I won't enable such probably space/resource consuming automatic tasks per default. p.s.: I certainly have a (central) backup solution via server ;) -- Regards Robert

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/etc/fstab and noatime
by T 05 Jan '07

05 Jan '07

Hi Since more and more people are using pen drives, I think in such case it is desirable to disable updating inode access time for each access to limit the wear and tear. So I hope that the generated /etc/fstab can have noatime for the mount points, at least an option to enable so. thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/

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Assistance with accessibily backing up my grml installation.
by Keith Hinton 05 Jan '07

05 Jan '07

Hi, I need some assistance from anyone who can provide it. I wish to tar, my entire root file system, and make the tar file create on another box via ssh. I am booted into the Live-disk, ATM. Any suggestions? If you have any, let me know. My idea was: to mount the root file system under something like: /mnt/grmlSystem. Then: tar czpf - /mnt/grmlSystem | ssh box@remotebox cat > Grml.tar.gz Would this work? If I have made an syntax error, please correct it, or something. I don ot wish, nor will I use slash exclude, as grml itself won't be running physically on the drive in question. Regards, -Keith website: www.KeithNet.DynDNS.org, proudly supplying a grml.org link!

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Dear Mika
by Keith Hinton 04 Jan '07

04 Jan '07

Hi all, Apparently my so called failior to hibernate and resume from XFS turned out to be the fact that my Computer was trying to boot off my USB flash drive. LOL Regards, --Keith.

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Md arrays error
by harry meyers 03 Jan '07

03 Jan '07

Hi, I always get a boot message like this: ,---- | Assembling MD arrays failed (no arrays found) `---- I don't know how to deal with it. I was trying to figure out what it can be, so I came over mdassemble and raid. Maybe anyone can help me to get rid of it - or give me a hint where I can further information on it. harry

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GRML and nice values
by Keith Hinton 29 Dez '06

29 Dez '06

Hi all. I have a strange problem in GRML Linux 0.8 (as I run this on my server machine, and do not wish to upgrade.) One of my problems, is that my software speech will die for no particular reason. I was instructed to set speechd-up therefore with a value of nice -20. I see this resolves my issue, but will that nice value be preserved during an suspend-to-disk? Regards, --Keith. BTW...Is software speech a CPU-intensive process in general? Regards, --Keith

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Are grml packages initially installed by aptitude
by T 29 Dez '06

29 Dez '06

Hi, I'm just wondering, are grml packages initially installed by aptitude? The reason that I'm asking is that after 'aptitude purge evms', I found the libevms-2.5 is still in the system. Also, after 'aptitude purge shish', the dietlibc dietlibc-dev are still in the system. I've never install those package myself, so I'm wondering how grml packages are initially installed. thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/

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gnome disaster
by martin yazdzik 29 Dez '06

29 Dez '06

Dear Friends, Symptoms: login via gdm as root, no issues whatsoever login vi gdm as yazdzik, gnome starts, then stops no issue with fluxbox as yazdzik what logs do I need to send so you can see what is wrong this is a new install as of yesterday I have deleted user and /home, so there is an issue somewhere with something that I cannot grasp did I bork the install somehow? or is gnome currently broken somewhere(unlikely since it works as root...) -m

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AdvanceMAME - AdvanceBOOT - USB Multi-BIOS Boot
by Mark 28 Dez '06

28 Dez '06

http://advancemame.sourceforge.net/boot-readme.html "It's also able to create disk images which are compatibles with all the three standards USB-FDD, USB-HDD and USB-ZIP at the same time." (Would be nice if USB hard drives made from grml2hd could do that.) http://advancemame.sourceforge.net/readme.html "Automatic creation of perfect video modes with the correct size and clock." "A lot of video boards supported. See the GNU/Linux, DOS and Windows card list." (Found while researching replacements for vesafb.)

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About /mnt/grml
by T 27 Dez '06

27 Dez '06

Hi On examining my root volume backup, I noticed for the first time the /mnt/grml directory. It looks almost like the whole root fs to me. Can somebody explain a bit about this directory? Especially, will my root volume backup be twice as big as it should be? Is it OK to omit the directory when backing up, or use it alone for backup, ...? thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/

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gnome disaster
by martin yazdzik 27 Dez '06

27 Dez '06

Does the enclosed have anything to do with the issue? It seems odd that after a while, such as now, gnome works fine - should I have avoided the xorg upgrade? best, m -m

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security protocol iceweasel question
by Martin Yazdzik 27 Dez '06

27 Dez '06

Dear M and friends, I know I must have done something wrong, but http://www.nais.org/LoginPre.cfm then, trying to go to sssonline gives me the error that iceweasel cannot connect because of a security protocol that is not enabled. It worked in grml 0.8, so I have somehow disabled something it needs, as the same type of error occurs in opera, galeon, et al. Help, please, as there must be something I did in runlevel.conf, or somewhere. Most other secure sites work. This is rather urgent, actually. Best, M

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GRML and hibernation question still needs answering...
by Keith Hinton 26 Dez '06

26 Dez '06

I seem to remember asking on this list what file systems are best for things like suspending a desktop computer multiple times, unplugging the supply after doing so, etc. I still have not had this answered. Thanks. The prior answer I got to this was that the person assumed that I did not know how to configure grub or lilo to resume, and that information is incorrect. I had grub resuming from the correct swap partition. Remember: to re-state my issue: basically I install grml automatically to my hard-drive with an xfs file system. Then, I install grub into the mbr like this: grub root (hd0,1) setup (hd0) Then reboot into my new installation of GRML. After that, I decide to do the following : echo disk >/sys/power/state Computer hibernates. (NoteJ:) At the present time when doing this, the power supply still was receiving power. So, turn back on computer. Grub loads, and quickly resumes from the swap partition. So, after about three minutes, I once again do: echo disk >/sys/power/state Except in this test of xfs, I go and switch off the serge-protector that goes to every single peace of computer-stuff I own, wich is in effect the same thing as yanking out the power supply cable from the back of the PC. So, after about 5 minutes, or less, I restore power to the computers, modem, router, etc. Turn on the Linux grml test box. And...to my shock, the box did nothing. Just sat still, did not beep at me the way it had done previously, etc. And, in fact I had to perform over 8 hard-power-offs and incorrect shut-downs of the machine before it would even reckidnize the presentes of a grml CD-rom, (and yes,) it would not reckidnize the grml CD, or anything. Finally, after minutes of turning on, turning off, turning on, turning off...and so on... I managed to reboot. At that point, I whiped Linux and reinstalled Windows onto my drive from a grml clone with NTFS-Clone, untill I can resolve this issue. I am sending a carbon coppy, in hopes that someone can respond to this, as I do not receive digests from grml(a)mur.at, until the next twenty-four hours. I consider this email of extreme importants, and my trust in xfs is gravely shaken. I need a relyable file system taht does well when suspended multiple times, and things. Thank you all! Regards tot he list, and merry christmas to all, --Keith. Check out my website at: http://www.KeithNet.DynDNS.org I have a link to grml.org there. :) I hope more and more people will be willing to check out grml through my site, or some other means. :)

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Boot window size?
by Ishwar Rattan 26 Dez '06

26 Dez '06

I use grml-0.3-small under qemu emulator and I find the window size too large fit on visible display. Is there a way to make it little smaller like: 800x600 or so? -ishwar

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Re: Grml Digest, Vol 20, Issue 23 hibernation responss
by Keith Hinton 24 Dez '06

24 Dez '06

Jake, I did have grub resume. It managed to resume once, without shutting off all power to the machine (and that means also yanking power from the supply. Upon restoring power, that's when my issue happened. Is that more clear? :) Regards, --Keith. ----- Original Message ----- From: <grml-request(a)mur.at> To: <grml(a)mur.at> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 4:00 AM Subject: Grml Digest, Vol 20, Issue 23 > Send Grml mailing list submissions to > grml(a)mur.at > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.mur.at/mailman/listinfo/grml > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > grml-request(a)mur.at > > You can reach the person managing the list at > grml-owner(a)mur.at > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Grml digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. What is the best-file system for grml, and suspend/resuming? > (Keith Hinton) > 2. Re: What is the best-file system for grml, and > suspend/resuming? (Jan-Pieter Jacobs) > 3. Install screen capture (Mark) > 4. Re: Install screen capture (roland) > 5. Re: Install screen capture (Jan-Pieter Jacobs) > 6. Re: Install screen capture (Michael Prokop) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 09:55:04 -0700 > From: "Keith Hinton" <keithint38(a)CommSpeed.net> > Subject: [Grml] What is the best-file system for grml, and > suspend/resuming? > To: <grml(a)mur.at> > Message-ID: <000601c726b3$17f2d460$6501a8c0@YOUR3ADE1B78A3> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I attempted to install grml automatically with an XFS file system. > Then, I installed grub, like this. > grub > root (hd0,1) > setup (hd0) > Then, > rebooted. > Then, I did: > echo disk >/sys/power/state > The box hibernated. > Then after about 3 minutes (note that I did not as yet try cutting all > power) I turned it back on, and it resumed. > So then, I performed a second test. > I hibernated it again. But this time, (I shut off the power) (and it > should have, retained the information and resumed anyways) but, it didn't. > In fact, the machine did not eaven boot up. Took me thousands of > hard-forceful shut-downs and more, before I could get the computer working > properly again. > Note:This all occured under an XFS file sytem. > So, I've decided not to use that one. > Mikap: > What file system do you use yourself, and, what file systems have you > tested? > I want someone (if this has never been done) to test this out by > hibernating a system with all the file systems GRML supports, and in every > test shut off all power for about 5 minutes, turn on all power, turn on > the computer, and see if it resumes. > Any tests, or assistance with this would be greatful! > Regards, > > Keith >

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Install screen capture
by Mark 24 Dez '06

24 Dez '06

What do people recommend for screen shot capture during grml2hd installataion? Mark

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What is the best-file system for grml, and suspend/resuming?
by Keith Hinton 23 Dez '06

23 Dez '06

I attempted to install grml automatically with an XFS file system. Then, I installed grub, like this. grub root (hd0,1) setup (hd0) Then, rebooted. Then, I did: echo disk >/sys/power/state The box hibernated. Then after about 3 minutes (note that I did not as yet try cutting all power) I turned it back on, and it resumed. So then, I performed a second test. I hibernated it again. But this time, (I shut off the power) (and it should have, retained the information and resumed anyways) but, it didn't. In fact, the machine did not eaven boot up. Took me thousands of hard-forceful shut-downs and more, before I could get the computer working properly again. Note:This all occured under an XFS file sytem. So, I've decided not to use that one. Mikap: What file system do you use yourself, and, what file systems have you tested? I want someone (if this has never been done) to test this out by hibernating a system with all the file systems GRML supports, and in every test shut off all power for about 5 minutes, turn on all power, turn on the computer, and see if it resumes. Any tests, or assistance with this would be greatful! Regards, Keith

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GRML2hd automatiic install and initrd
by Keith Hinton 23 Dez '06

23 Dez '06

Does GRML2hd create an initrd file for the kernel if an automatic installation is used? Thanks. Regards-Keith

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permission denied on copy
by wahmd 22 Dez '06

22 Dez '06

Greetings... Why was "permission denied" when root uses Rox-filer to try to copy file from pendrive to another folder (when permissions seem to be set as owner read and write)? Thanks. Happy holidays and best wishes for 2007. wahmd

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More sites linking to grml
by T 22 Dez '06

22 Dez '06

Hi, Just FYI, more and more sites are linking to grml now. Last month, there was an article in Debian Administration linking back to grml: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/464 Recently, there is also an wiki entry at wikia.com linking back to grml: http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Making_a_DVD_with_text_menus I heard for Google search engine, the more sites link to a certain site, the more important Google will think the site is, and the more likely search results will come near the top... PS. Timo Boettcher, I need your permission to use your picture to promote grml. thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/

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A question about GRML2hd, how many options can it accept at once?
by keithint38＠commspeed.net 21 Dez '06

21 Dez '06

Hi all, How many options is grml2hd capable of handeling at one time, Mika? I.e. Suppose I wish to disable the remove-packages-server script from running, and at the exact same time tell it to run the isntaller and install in automatic mode. So: Suppose I've set the boot_partition in /etc/grml2hd/config as /dev/hda, and the main root as /dev/hda2. Now: If I wanted to: Could I just type the following into grml2hd? NOSWREMOVAL=1 GRML2HD_NONINTERACTIVE=1 into the prompt and hit return and have it work? Or, does GRML2hd not accept that type of command structure. Mika: I have read the manual page from http://www.GRML.org/GRML2hd plentty of times, and do know the commands. I'm asking more about if grml2hd can accept multiple options at once before running it. Take a look at my example, and just let me know if that would work. What I am attempting to do, is have an automatic installation of GRML Linux, and still have all packages, all without one being removed. I have plentty of space on my disk to hold all of them, without a problem--it's 300 GB or so. That's plentty of space for what I would like to do. BTW..Marry Christmas to the grml mailing list! I'll be back tomorrow, so look forward to seeing you folks. Take care, --Keith

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Framebuffer mode setting
by Mark 21 Dez '06

21 Dez '06

We're not clear how mode selection works for framebuffer. The file /etc/fb.modes lists many modes. We want 1280x1024-60. The choice matches a vendor 'preferred timing mode' for optimal monitor performance. We run this mode in X fine. The problem is framebuffer. We do not get how to ask grml for 1280x1024-60. No fbset commands or lilo configs seem to do it. We get, instead, 1280x1024-77 or some other unexpected v-refresh, not even listed in fb.modes. We tried a 'special name' for mode 1280x1024-60 to work with lilo commands and it also failed. (Actually we made a duplicate mode with a different name in fb.modes.) The grml 0.9 live CD also does something weird. We boot 'grml fb1280x1024' but end up with lower resolution framebuffer, 1024x768. It seems that grml cheatcodes do not allow arbitrary selection from fb.modes, but only 3. We cannot rely on automatic mode selection. We need to state the modes we want. We use KVMs quite a bit, which ruin DDC queries to monitor firmware, and also we run LCDs on analog video, not digital. This combination works fine in the right driving mode. Thanks, Mark

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Supplying multiple commands to GRML2hd
by keithint38＠commspeed.net 20 Dez '06

20 Dez '06

Hi all, Is it possible to configure an automatic installation of GRML through editing /etc/grml2hd/grml2hd.conf, or whatever, and ten to say: grml2hd NOSWREMOVAL=1 grml2hd NON_INTERACTIVE=1? Or do I type something else. Also, Could I review an example configuration file for an automatic grml2hd installation somewhere to get an idea of what one looks like? I am not currently at an GRML system, and am using the school computers here to type this message. If I could look at one just to get an idea, that would help. :) Regards, --Keith

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sarge + kernel 2.6.18-grml loads only few modules
by Erich Minderlein 20 Dez '06

20 Dez '06

Hi after having successfully installed kernel 2.6.18-grml and a sarge base configuration via the grml-skript I have stopped working on this notebook. Now I take up on this again : It loads only few modules, so no network, no periphery: just the 6 shells and the ipv6 module is loaded. /sys/module is rather empty : about 15 modules are listed , for HDD, CDROM and video, while at the funkentzutzler there are 74 modules listed. the line "populating /dev" does not show up in dmesg when doing the boot. It seems that some skripts must be added to my installation to get the kernel scan its periphery. a shortened diff ps(grml0.8,left) ps(kernel2.6.18-grml+sarge,right) is added: PID TTY STAT COMMAND PID TTY STAT COMMAND 1 ? Ss init [2] | 1 ? Ss init [2] 2 ? S [migration/0] 2 ? S [migration/0] 3 ? SN [ksoftirqd/0] 3 ? SN [ksoftirqd/0] 4 ? S [watchdog/0] 4 ? S [watchdog/0] 5 ? S< [events/0] 5 ? S< [events/0] 6 ? S< [khelper] 6 ? S< [khelper] 7 ? S< [kthread] 7 ? S< [kthread] 9 ? S< [kblockd/0] | 10 ? S< [kblockd/0] 10 ? S< [kacpid] | 11 ? S< [kacpid] 94 ? S< [kseriod] | 96 ? S< [cqueue/0] 148 ? S [pdflush] | 97 ? S< [kseriod] 149 ? S [pdflush] | 157 ? S [pdflush] 150 ? S [kswapd0] | 158 ? S [pdflush] 151 ? S< [aio/0] | 159 ? S< [kswapd0] 152 ? S< [jfsIO] | 160 ? S< [aio/0] 153 ? S< [jfsCommit] | 161 ? S< [jfsIO] 154 ? S< [jfsSync] | 162 ? S< [jfsCommit] 155 ? S< [xfslogd/0] | 163 ? S< [jfsSync] 156 ? S< [xfsdatad/0] | 164 ? S< [xfslogd/0] 745 ? S< [cqueue/0] | 165 ? S< [xfsdatad/0] 757 ? S< [kpsmoused] | 294 ? S< [kpsmoused] 832 ? S< [ata/0] | 384 ? S< [ata/0] 841 ? S< [scsi_eh_0] | 385 ? S< [ata_aux] 842 ? S< [scsi_eh_1] | 394 ? S< [scsi_eh_0] 868 ? S< [kcryptd/0] | 395 ? S< [scsi_eh_1] 869 ? S< [kmirrord] | 416 ? S< [kcryptd/0] 943 ? S< [khubd] | 417 ? S< [kmirrord] 989 ? S< [scsi_eh_2] | 423 ? S< [kjournald] 990 ? S< [usb-storage] | 807 ? Ss /sbin/syslogd 1944 ? S< [loop0] | 810 ? Ss /sbin/klogd 2215 ? S<s udevd --daemon | 842 ? Ss /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 3837 ? S [khpsbpkt] | 848 ? Ss /usr/sbin/inetd 3934 ? S [pccardd] | 855 ? Ss /usr/sbin/sshd 3935 ? S [knodemgrd_0] | 868 ? Ss /sbin/mdadm -F -i /var/run/mdadm.p 3993 ? S< [shpchpd] | 871 ? Ss /usr/sbin/atd 4017 ? S< [kgameportd] | 874 ? Ss /usr/sbin/cron 4504 ? Ss /usr/sbin/acpid -c /etc/acpi/event | 882 tty1 Ss -bash 4625 ? SNs pump -i eth0 | 885 tty2 Ss+ /sbin/getty 38400 tty2 4680 ? SNs /sbin/syslog-ng -p /var/run/syslog | 886 tty3 Ss+ /sbin/getty 38400 tty3 4695 ? SNs /usr/sbin/powernowd -q | 887 tty4 Ss+ /sbin/getty 38400 tty4 4719 ? SNs /usr/sbin/gpm -m /dev/psaux -t aut | 888 tty5 Ss+ /sbin/getty 38400 tty5 4759 tty1 Ss /bin/zsh -l | 889 tty6 Ss+ /sbin/getty 38400 tty6 4760 tty2 Ss+ /bin/dash /usr/bin/grml-init-scree | 910 tty1 R+ ps ax 4761 tty3 Ss+ /bin/dash /usr/bin/grml-init-scree < 4762 tty4 Ss+ 0:00 /bin/zsh < 4763 tty5 Ss+ 0:00 /bin/zsh < 4766 tty6 Ss+ 0:00 /bin/zsh < 4767 tty9 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty9 < 4768 tty10 Ss+ 0:00 /bin/zsh --login -c /usr/bin/iptst < 4771 tty11 Ss+ 0:00 /bin/zsh --login -c /usr/bin/htop < 4774 tty12 Ss+ 0:00 /bin/zsh --login -c /usr/bin/multi < 4822 tty10 S+ 0:00 /usr/bin/iptstate < 4824 tty11 S+ 0:33 /usr/bin/htop < 4825 tty12 S+ 0:00 /usr/bin/multitail /var/log/syslog < 4834 tty12 S 0:00 tail -48lf /var/log/syslog < 4841 tty2 S+ 0:00 /usr/bin/screen -c /etc/grml/scree < 4845 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/SCREEN -c /etc/grml/scree < 4848 tty3 S+ 0:00 /usr/bin/screen -c /etc/grml/scree < 4849 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/SCREEN -c /etc/grml/scree < 4869 pts/0 Ss+ 0:00 zsh < 4873 pts/1 Ss+ 0:00 zsh < 5059 ? S< 0:00 [kjournald] < 5078 ? S< 0:00 [kjournald] < 5219 tty1 R+ 0:00 ps ax < >From the process numbers I see that a lot of transient processes did not happen on my install, and usb-storage, cqueued, loop0, udevd do not exist thereafter. best regards -- Erich Minderlein <erminderlein(a)locoware.de> MARC Mannheim Rail Commerce GmbH

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Lilo and the boot-prompt
by keithint38＠commspeed.net 20 Dez '06

20 Dez '06

Greetings friends, I am a Visually impaired user of GRML, and noticed that LILO brings up this boot-prompt thing, that isn't exactly that useful. I was wondering how to either perhaps get rid of the prompt, or at least how to set the timeout option to 0 so that LILO doesn't have a chance to display the prompt, and automatically boot up GRML without waiting for user-interaction? If that isn't possible, then I may switch to GRUB, eaven though I'd rather not. Regards, --Keith

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primitive lilo question
by Martin Yazdzik 19 Dez '06

19 Dez '06

Dear Friends at grml, google lilo information tends to be rather out of date, to say the least - since grml 0.9 works, well, just works, I need to make what was my experimental partition my main OS. /dev/sda1 = windows /dev/sda2 = swap /dev/sda3 = old grml /dev/sda4 = new grml currently, the laptop boots from the old grml, that is lilo is installed to the mbr, but goes to the root at old grml and uses the "other OS" to boot into the new grml. I wish to have the mbr point to the new grml, in other words, use the sda3 partition for either data, or one of my experiments. So, how can I re-isntall lilo to the mbr from the new grml without making a mess? Will lilo -v -v just work? And, yes, I apologise and know that this is not the right place for this question. Best, M

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discover and rtl8111 ethernet
by Markus Wigge 15 Dez '06

15 Dez '06

Hi, I compiled an r1000.ko module for my PXE bootenvironment and added it to the initrd image but I don't understand the discover tool yet, so I just added r1000 to the discovered result as dirty hack... Is there a possibility to discover the hardware automagically? /Markus

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grml-small PXE kernel
by Markus Wigge 15 Dez '06

15 Dez '06

Hi, I managed to add a section to linuxrc of the netboot 0.8 package which downloads the seconds stage via http, but after updating the files to the grml-small 0.3 kernel and modules I noticed it lacks unionfs support?! So can anyone give me a small hint how to compile a customized grml-small kernel I can use for PXE booting? BTW: My intention is to prevent setting up a NFS server in my network... bye, Markus

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hints about grml 0.9 on HD and ipw3945
by Lars Schimmer 14 Dez '06

14 Dez '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi! Today I installed grml 0.9 (two times) to HD with grm2hd. If I boot with the CD the autoconf detects eth0 (e1000) and eth1 (ipw3945) from my T60 laptop. After install on HD and reboot the system just recognize eth0. After rmmod ipw3945 /modprobe ipw3945 (and for some test another /etc/init.d/ipw3945d restart) I get a eth1 but with a dhclient eth1 I can?t get a IP. While booting from the live CD I just need to wait a few sec and retry dhclient eth1 and the LED for the WLAN activity is enlighten and blinks. With boot from HD it is most time dark, just a part of second enlightent. Oh, I use grml-network with WPA supplicant options. Anyone has a idea? Is ipw3945 buggy? Yes, it is a clean install, an now the (hopeful) exact steps: boot from CD: boot with standard option grml-network (enter correct SSID, standard options, WPA, enter correct Key), wait, break fist dhclient wait some sec dhclient eth1 *ipw3945 is active, WLAN LED is active and I got net access* HD install: - -grml2hd - -chroot, install grub - -reboot - -apt-get update, apt-get upgrade (NO grml, kenrel oder ipw3945 update!) - -grml-network (same as with CD boot) - -reboot - - after boot no eth1 present - - rmmod ipw3945 - - modprobe ipw3945 - - ifconfig - no eth1 - - ifconfig eth1 - eth1 shows up with correct MAC ID, no IP - - dhclient eth1 - WLAN HD is dark, some flickering and NO IP.. MfG, Lars Schimmer - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------- TU Graz, Institut für ComputerGraphik & WissensVisualisierung Tel: +43 316 873-5405 E-Mail: l.schimmer(a)cgv.tugraz.at Fax: +43 316 873-5402 PGP-Key-ID: 0x4A9B1723 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQFFfIewmWhuE0qbFyMRAofEAKCGT6+xhpKhBiQwAafjFwHjtVAHNgCcD9IA Zpy8MVsm8fjbVLpiYZI4RA4= =d7ya -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Unlocking CD drive
by Michael Schierl 13 Dez '06

13 Dez '06

Hi, sometimes I booted grml, started a job there (like using dd to zero a partition) and then have to leave (but let it try continuing the zeroing). So I want to remove the CD (and risk a panic later when a file from it is accessed). But that is no problem since I do not run anything new after the CD is removed, so everything needed is already in cache. For these cases I have a perl script on my USB pendrive: #!/usr/bin/perl -w open(H, "</dev/cdrom") or die("Can't open: $!"); ioctl(H, 0x5329 , 0) or die("Can't ioctl: $!"); close(H) or die("Can't close: $!"); That one works well - if I have my pendrive with me. My question: Is there a way inside grml to do the same thing (without memorizing the whole script or the ioctl number)? Something in /proc or /sys? Or a script? (Using the hardware eject "hole" of the CD drive does not count, since it requires a paper clip ;-) ) TIA, Michael

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noob scripting question
by Martin Yazdzik 12 Dez '06

12 Dez '06

Dear Friends at grml, Please forgive a really dumb question, but I cannot seem to get fluxbox to run the gnome-settings-daemon automatically, yet prefer to use flux as my wm. On the other hand, I must have my own fonts in apps, particularly evolution as my lappy has a uxga screen, which renders, for all practical purposes, apps illegible. So, I thought a little script in .xinitrc would work to launch the daemon, but, since gdm seems to bypass the xinitrc, where should I stick a script, presuming I can write one? This is not to say that gdm does not suck, merely that I need to boot up at the push of one button.... ;) New York is under way too much time stress. Best, Martin

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Making an initrd.img for 2.6.18
by Tom White 09 Dez '06

09 Dez '06

I eventually got one to boot, but I suspect I'm missing something basic. mkinitrd couldn't find sd_mod: # mkinitrd -o initrd.img-2.6.18-grml -r /dev/sdb3 2.6.18-grml /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: add_modules_dep_2_5: modprobe failed FATAL: Module sd_mod not found. yaird worked for me going from 2.6.16 to 2.6.17, but now / isn't in fstab # yaird --output=initrd.img-2.6.18-grml 2.6.18-grml yaird error: mount point not in fstab: . (fatal) So I modified /etc/yaird/Default.cfg < MOUNTDIR "/" "/mnt" --- > MOUNTDIR "/mnt/sdb3" "/mnt" But yaird now didn't like /dev/usb-sdb3 in fstab # yaird --output=initrd.img-2.6.18-grml 2.6.18-grml yaird error: duplicate device name in fstab: /dev/sdb3 (fatal) So I commented it out # Added by GRML #/dev/usb-sdb3 /mnt/usb-sdb3 auto user,noauto,nodev,noatime,nosuid,noexec,rw,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0 And success # yaird --output=initrd.img-2.6.18-grml 2.6.18-grml -- -- Tom White

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boring
by Martin Yazdzik 08 Dez '06

08 Dez '06

Dear Mika and Friends, What a boring install! Everything worked otob on my dell laptop, and the tz config, which used to cause hair pulling was one simple command and voila. While I used the ati installer, which worked perfectly to get hardware accel, and ndiswrapper, because the bcm4306 driver still only allows "b" speeds, nothing took anytime at all. Now, here is the question from the idiot newbie: Since grml .9 installed easily and cleanly on /sda4, but, obviously, I could not risk the change in the production environment, can I more easily upgrade the existing grml .8 with all the data and config that I need to .9, without a lot of brimborium, or can I somehow install lilo to the mbr from the newly installed grml, and use the old partition for data or somthing, without making a mess that a novce cannot clean up? Is the apparent increased speed, by feel, not measured, due to newer kernel, better fglrx drivers, or what? Best wishes from a grateful user, Martin Chi troppo vuole nulla stringe

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grml0.9rc2: filterm does not work with less
by Martin Jerabek 08 Dez '06

08 Dez '06

Hi! When using a UTF-8 locale, grml0.9rc2 suggests during boot to use "filterm - dynafont" to enable UTF-8 output on the console. This works fine with several programs I tested (e.g. more, vim) but not with "less" (or "most"). This is annoying because it makes it impossible to view manpages since man uses less as its pager by default. When trying to view manpages in a UTF-8 locale without filterm, special characters such as "fancy" quotes are not displayed correctly, of course. The effect when using less with "filterm - dynafont" is that the console is switched back to its default grml font and less hangs. It has to be killed to be able to proceed. A simple test to show this behavior while LANG=en_US.UTF-8 is set: % filterm - dynafont % less ...Only ^C can stop less Instead of calling less directly, try to view any manpage: % filterm - dynafont % man find Reformatting find(1), please wait... ...stuck... I am sure this is a problem of filterm but since filterm seems to be the recommended way to do UTF-8 output in grml0.9, it is also grml's problem. Regards Martin Jerabek

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UTF-8 is default in Etch
by Mark 08 Dez '06

08 Dez '06

FYI - since grml tracks Debian very closely: UTF-8 encoding default for new systems The installer will set up systems to use UTF-8 encoding rather than the old language-specific encodings (like ISO-8859-1, EUC-JP or KIO-8). http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html (I know, mika & gang are working on it post-0.9, thanks, this is for everyone else) (p.s. Ubuntu already defaults to UTF-8)

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No pub keys for new grml repo?
by "Robert Zöhrer | pronet.at" 07 Dez '06

07 Dez '06

Hi, just changed sources to new repo, then updating package list from new repo -> aptitude / gpg warns that there's no public key for repo/package signatures :/ Anybody else with this issue? Robert btw: THX a lot to mika and rest grml team for this great work!

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sidux announced
by roland 07 Dez '06

07 Dez '06

linux distro #4234233, live-cd distro #31231 being announced! http://sidux.com/Article2.html *sigh* remember those microsoft ad with those penguin creatures (i.e. penguins with frog-heads, rabbit-ears....) ?

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grml 0.9 and grml-small 0.3 released
by Michael Prokop 07 Dez '06

07 Dez '06

Hi grml-users and developers, grml 0.9 with codename Dioptrienotto and grml-small 0.3 with codename Zwergenaufstand have been released and are hitting the mirrors. The official release announcements providing all the relevant news are available at: grml 0.9 => http://grml.org/files/README-0.9.php grml-small 0.3 => http://grml.org/files/README-0.3-small.php Issues regarding the release can be found in the grml-wiki at http://wiki.grml.org/doku.php?id=grml_0.9 and http://wiki.grml.org/doku.php?id=grml-small_0.3 As usual you can get the ISO(s) via bittorrent, http and/or ftp from the mirrors listed at http://grml.org/download/ Have fun and enjoy the new release! As usual feedback your is welcome. regards, -mika- -- http://grml.org/ # Linux for texttool-users and sysadmins http://wiki.grml.org/ # share your knowledge http://grml.supersized.org/ # the grml development weblog #grml @ irc.freenode.org # meet us on irc

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[OT] udev and number of devices
by T 06 Dez '06

06 Dez '06

Hi, Not a grml specific question, but trying to tap into the knowledge from people here: Can udev handle more than 15 devices? My HD used to have 15 partitions, now I created another one, the 16th, but it is not recognized by udev. I.e., there is no /dev/sda16. If I created it myself, like the following, $ ls -l /dev/sda1* brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 1 12-03 12:31 /dev/sda1 brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 10 12-03 17:31 /dev/sda10 brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 11 12-03 17:31 /dev/sda11 brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 12 12-03 12:31 /dev/sda12 brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 13 12-03 17:31 /dev/sda13 brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 14 12-03 17:31 /dev/sda14 brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 15 12-03 17:31 /dev/sda15 brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 16 12-03 18:08 /dev/sda16 I still can't use it to mount the partition: % mount /dev/sda16 /mnt/tmp1/ mount: /dev/sda16 is not a valid block device Anything I've been missing? thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/

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grml-small and X
by T 06 Dez '06

06 Dez '06

Hi, Anybody could share your experience putting X in grml-small? what are the minimum packages installed (to run wm like fluxbox)? what are the extra disk size put on? thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/

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grml-tips sarge success
by Erich Minderlein 03 Dez '06

03 Dez '06

Hallo I have done two different trials today: a) first I followed grml-tips sarge, but instead of doing base-config as written down on the CDROM, I switched to use the etch sequence. I have come as far as installing a kernel, but this fails on the creation of the mkinitrd. The /dev/sda3 which is needed is not accepted as a block device. b) The trial with grml-debootstrap runs very smooth after eliminating all input errors it installed a sarge first with a kernel of sarge, which does not boot, then I changed sources list and it installed 2.6.18-grml in chroot. Now lsmod shows only a module for ipv6 . nothing else. Fine tuning is now required: fstab, modules (installation in chroot needed) and usb devices. When I have the usb HDD available, I can copy back all /etc/* which were once prepared and still do fit. regards -- Erich Minderlein <erminderlein(a)locoware.de> MARC Mannheim Rail Commerce GmbH PS American Puritan search engines do not like strong four letter words, maybe you change my xXxXxX word to something more cryptic !! Thanks .

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grml-tips sarge
by Erich Minderlein 03 Dez '06

03 Dez '06

Hallo I noted now differences between grml-tips sarge and etch base-config does not show up in the install of etch. from mount ... /proc the proceeding is different and answers some questions about errors occuring in my installs. Probably something got mixed up some time ago. best regards -- Erich Minderlein <erminderlein(a)locoware.de> MARC Mannheim Rail Commerce GmbH

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grml-tips sarge
by Erich Minderlein 02 Dez '06

02 Dez '06

Hallo I am very confused again : I have followed the grml-tips sarge to a 100 %, but at the step base-config I type in at "configure apt sources" ftp.de.debian.org and then a download of testing "packages.gz" follows. But it should only download stable "packages.gz". also that I put my preferences and apt.conf in the /etc/apt/ stating that only stable or sarge is preference. I eliminated the testing and unstable sources from sources.list and preferences. when I key in /debian stable it asks for stable/testing which of course does not exist. Something in the base-config secretly adds "testing" to every user input. How come ???? The system is very stiff in first downloading libc6 from testing and then the whole sarge setup is fUcKeD uP.(the only right word. ) ( that breaks about 100 packages from the bases and consequently the system is unable to downgrade again. ) I have done that now about 6 times and the result does not change. best regards. -- Erich Minderlein <erminderlein(a)locoware.de> MARC Mannheim Rail Commerce GmbH

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new grml repositories
by Michael Prokop 01 Dez '06

01 Dez '06

Hoi, thanks to the great work of Alexander 'formorer' Wirt I'm proud to be able to announce a new grml repository service. What? ----- Until now we have been using http://grml.org/repos/ as the main repository for grml. But the maintainence overhead was pretty large for me. Further disadvantages have been: * no automatization * lacking possibitilies for multi-arch (i386, amd64, ppc) * splitting into stable and testing branches not present * no notification via mail on new uploads * no possibility of archiving the pool (e.g. release-based) * host could not be moved from main grml.org server due to lack of subdomain inside repos-name Formorer was so kind to set up new infrastructure and we have been busy working on feeding all the packages to the new infrastructure within the last few days. Changes ------- You should adjust your /etc/apt/sources.list. The lines containing http://grml.org/repos/ inside your /etc/apt/sources.list can be considered deprecated. Now it should contain something like: # stable grml repository: deb http://deb.grml.org/ grml-stable main deb-src http://deb.grml.org/ grml-stable main # testing/developer grml repository: # deb http://deb.grml.org/ grml-testing main # deb-src http://deb.grml.org/ grml-testing main # old (fallback) grml repository: # deb http://grml.org/repos/ ./ # deb-src http://grml.org/repos/ ./ As the name 'grml-stable' indicates that's the repository which contains packages considered as "stable" (new release, bugfixes,...). If you want to get the bleeding edge packages you can enable the grml-testing branch as well of course. You should adjust apt-preferences as well to something like: # cat /etc/apt/preferences // main grml-repository: Package: * Pin: origin deb.grml.org Pin-Priority: 996 // fallback grml-repository: Package: * Pin: origin grml.org Pin-Priority: 995 [...] If you want to be informed about new uploads you can subscribe to the grml-testing-changes mailinglist: http://ml.grml.org/list/grml-testing-changes.en.html Just send a mail to "hg-commits+subscribe (at) ml.grml.org". If you already have the package grml-etc-core on your box make sure you are using a recent version (>= 0.2.3) which provides the files /etc/apt/sources.list.grml and /etc/apt/preferences.grml containing above entries for you. grml 0.9 will be shipped with new repository enabled by default. You won't have to care about anything if using grml >= 0.9. Backwards compatible -------------------- http://grml.org/repos/ will be available for the next few weeks as well. I will upload packages to the repository until release of grml 0.9 so you should not have any hassles. The plan is to disable the old repository by begin of 2007. The packages inside the directory will stay available but the files necessary for apt-get/aptitude might be removed when we consider the repository as deprecated. (But this won't happen within just a few days so you have enough time to adjust your setups.) Problems? Questions? -------------------- Please let me know if you consider any problems with the new repository or have any questions. JFYI && regards, -mika- -- http://grml.org/ # Linux for texttool-users and sysadmins http://wiki.grml.org/ # share your knowledge http://grml.supersized.org/ # the grml development weblog #grml @ irc.freenode.org # meet us on irc

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Re: grml-tips sarge
by Erich Minderlein 30 Nov '06

30 Nov '06

Hi > Message: 3 locatedb > Hm? That's just timestamp based and we won't release a new stable > release every 8 days just to supress the warning. ;) :-) > Seriously: it's just a warning message, nothing to care about on the > live-cd - everything ok. On your hd-installation run 'updatedb' to > update the locate database, but don't care about it on the live-cd. :-) what could be done on the new union fs, where you can actually overwrite a file originally located on the cdrom as I understand, when the install is done on RAM then do a nice -10 updatedb & ; /bin/zsh should not be a RAM-memory problem , locatedb is 1.5 MByte or so just service > > > > there is an output of mkfs.ext3 : > > Dateisystem wird geprft alle .., je nachdem ..., > > veraenderbar mit tune2fs -c oder -t > > must be > > veraenderbar mit tune2fs -c oder -i > > ==================================^ > > lots of downloads going on, install is fine. > > mkfs.ext3 is nothing which is controlled by grml. > You mean the output of mkfs.ext3 regarding tune2fs contains errors?! jes, just one letter -t should be -i (-c=count, -i = interval) > Just set $TERM to something like 'linux' when chrooting... thks > > perl continued to complain LANGUAGE unset, > [...] > > Just install 'locales'. > thanks, will do > > ls /dev/sd* does not show > > /dev/sda4, /dev/sda5, /dev/sda6 ! > > > I cannot mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda5/ dev/sda6 ! > > no devices. > > /dev/sda4 cannot be found not as p-partition, nor > > /dev/sda5 and /dev/sda6 as l-partition. > > For sure, because something is still accessing your disk so the > partition table can not be reread using the BLKRRPART ioctl(). Very > probably its an enabled swap partition. Take a look at output of > 'swapon -s' no output > and disable swap partitions via 'swapoff -a'. done the next time > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:33:15 +0100 > From: Michael Prokop <mika(a)grml.org> > Subject: Re: [Grml] grml-tips sarge, addendum > To: grml(a)mur.at > Message-ID: <2006-11-29T20-29-38(a)devnull.michael-prokop.at> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > * Erich Minderlein <erminderlein(a)locoware.de> [20061129 20:15]: > > [...] > > but what remains is the perl complaint: > > perl: warning: setting locale failed: > > falling back to default "C". > > apt-get install locales > > wget http://dufo.tugraz.at/~prokop/grml-kernel/2.6.17-grml/linux-image-2.6.17-gr… > dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.17-grml_grml.06_i386.deb will do > > BTW: You should definitely take a look at grml-debootstrap: > > http://grml.supersized.org/archives/202-grml-debootstrap-wrapper-around-deb… > will do here comes the preference file , as I have it in sarge plain, the only thing not from sarge is dokuwiki, not essential Package: * Pin: release a=stable Pin-Priority: 1001 Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 101 Package: * Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 99 Package: * Pin: release a=experimental Pin-Priority: 9 // main grml-repository: Package: * Pin: origin grml.org Pin-Priority: 993 // fallback grml-repository: Package: * Pin: origin dufo.tugraz.at Pin-Priority: 992 The first part is from sarge The second from grml > "p.i.t.r.e."? pain in the rear end best regards, now reading and Continuation on Friday. -- Erich Minderlein <erminderlein(a)locoware.de> MARC Mannheim Rail Commerce GmbH

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PXE-Boot and cheatcodes
by Ralf Moll 30 Nov '06

30 Nov '06

Hi, how can I use the differnt boot-cheatcodes for pxe-boots? I want especially use the "forensic" parameter. For the while I use the parameter "noswap", which should be quite the same? Can I include networkshares (smb/nfs) by adding special boot-parameters or do I have to rebuild the grml-iso? The grml-Terminal-Server cannot be used, because I have already a dhcp / tftp server running and don't wanna burning energy with another pc running 24/7. cu, ramon

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grml - slow at the end of booting
by roland 30 Nov '06

30 Nov '06

Hello ! I often use grml on old machines and inside VMware virtual machines. works very well, but depending on the hardware, in the end of the boot there is a long delay between "Happy hacking!..." and a shell being opened. it´s between 5-15 seconds delay, maybe i have seen even longer delays, but didn`t stop. this is somewhat annoying if you boot into grml several times a day. what is causing this delay? can we speed this up somehow ? roland

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grml-tips sarge Addendum 2 preferences
by Erich Minderlein 29 Nov '06

29 Nov '06

Hello Something does not work as desired, when doing the install, apt* sees there is also testing available and starts downloading from the testing suite . Now I put /etc/apt/preferences in : sarge 1001 grml 993 grml-backup 992 testing 101 unstable 99 some files are downgraded, but libc6 is a p.i.t.r.e. preferences shall be added to the grml-tips sarge (etc) best regards -- Erich Minderlein <erminderlein(a)locoware.de> MARC Mannheim Rail Commerce GmbH

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WiFi Success Stories?
by Juergen Fiedler 29 Nov '06

29 Nov '06

Does anybody here have a good USB WiFi adapter they could recommend? I would much prefer one that works without ndiswrapper and at least supports WEP. Something that 'just works'. Right now, I have a DLink DWL-122, which works fine as long as I don't enable WEP -but even the attempt to set the WEP key for the adapter gives me an error (SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported.). Many people out there seem to agree that it is just not a good and decent adapter. So, does anyone know of a better one that works OK with grml, I would appreciate any advice! Thanks, -juergen

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grml-tips sarge, addendum
by Erich Minderlein 29 Nov '06

29 Nov '06

Hello What remains on error after doing mount -t proc none /proc a number of errors have disapperead, (I did mount -t proc proc /proc) such as tab completion, PATH, . but what remains is the perl complaint: perl: warning: setting locale failed: falling back to default "C". What i see in the aptitude display is the new kernel 2.6.18-grml, but I prefer due to the current impossibility of having more than three partitions still to be capable of downloading the 2.6.17-grml. (if my cdrom goes apart.) >From this I know it works. Is that possible ? Developpers need development, customers need stability. Thanks -- Erich Minderlein <erminderlein(a)locoware.de> MARC Mannheim Rail Commerce GmbH

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Trial to install after the manual : grml-tips sarge
by Erich Minderlein 29 Nov '06

29 Nov '06

Hello After a lot of fooling around with this one year old hardware amilopro I do not come to an end with getting a homogenous computer landscape, as all other systems at locoware.de have sarge, (with gnome, firefox, evolution except for the firewall) and a very low maintenance load. I would like to keep it that way. But this notebook does not like the old kernels of sarge. Installation is somewhat possible. I tried original sarge installation, It did not work because of kernel now with a DVD of sarge stable , sata_via cannot be loaded and this is needed for HDD. It did something other bad with an old cdrom from the times, when sarge was testing. some more info : floppy, via_sata (error) and generic ide support stalls the installation on this sarge stable DVD I tried then knoppix(4.01), which charged 240000 files on my HDD and is just a huge collection of lots of sources, started nicely as the DVD came with the notebook and recommendation by knoppix is anyhow to not install on a HDD. Then I tried grml with the known compatibility problems of xservers. So I tried `grml-tips sarge`. What is a general problem with CDROM Live systems : reply: 1. locatedb older than 8 days, very helpful, but I knew that before, I want to know if this-> or that-> file is there. going along the manual of grml-tips sarge installation was very helpful, also sda1 was found and a filesystem made with mkfs.ext3. there is an output of mkfs.ext3 : Dateisystem wird geprüft alle .., je nachdem ..., veränderbar mit tune2fs -c oder -t must be veränderbar mit tune2fs -c oder -i =================================^ lots of downloads going on, install is fine. but after the chroot TROUBLE vi : unkown terminal type screen.linux so lets use some other editors: pico, nano, nvi what there is in the same directory, all the same reply: unkown terminal type screen.linux As I did the chroot in a second console, I could continue to do the editing work in the first console with longer directory strings. in the chroot : no tab completion, but for a few commands okay, and no paths are found. apt-get, mount works and that is needed. horrible flashing of the whole screen when pressing cursor direction keys and backspace in position one after the prompt. perl continued to complain LANGUAGE unset, lots of messages also i have given lang=de at the grml boot and the keyboard understands german. LC_TYPE, LC_MESSAGES and LC_ALL are all de_DE , fine. mkinitrd.conf was not there, apt-get initrd-tools fixed it. I continued through the script, and probably made a mistake : installed kernel-image-2.6.8-2 from sarge edited lilo but did not edit the kernel line as vmlinu? in chroot: did /sbin/lilo added linux* looked okay. Surprise at the reboot kernel 2.6.17-grml shows up. a sarge like font, a grml like kernel. Actually this is what I wanted to have, but not in this completely uncontrolled manner. the kernel still sits somewhere on the HDD, not over written and I ask myself Did lilo content itself when finding this kernel ??????? (this happened actually twice.) BACK TO THE ROOTS ! 1. I need a working system as reference : grml2hd -untouched ! 2. I need a sarge stable business environment with adaptions to actual hardware : sarge + 2.6.17-grml + Xserver XFree86 VESA or VESAFB 3. maybe I install a testing environment for grml 0.9. erased all partitions : made 1 swap (sda1), one for grml 0.8 (sda2), one for sarge(sda3) just in time info that grml 0.9 is coming, erased sda3, and made sda3 and sda4 (all primary partitions) sda3 for grml 0.9 sda4 for sarge mkfs.ext3 does not read sda4 as primary partition!!! ls does not show it either , so I make a "Erweitere" partition and eliminate sda4, sda3. this is the typescript of the session: Script wurde gestartet: Mi 29 Nov 2006 18:47:12 CET root@amilopro #fdisk /dev/sda Die Anzahl der Zylinder für diese Platte ist auf 4864 gesetzt. Daran ist nichts verkehrt, aber das ist größer als 1024 und kann in bestimmten Konfigurationen Probleme hervorrufen mit: 1) Software, die zum Bootzeitpunkt läuft (z. B. ältere LILO-Versionen) 2) Boot- und Partitionierungssoftware anderer Betriebssysteme (z. B. DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK) Befehl (m für Hilfe): p Platte /dev/sda: 40.0 GByte, 40007761920 Byte 255 Köpfe, 63 Sektoren/Spuren, 4864 Zylinder Einheiten = Zylinder von 16065 × 512 = 8225280 Bytes Gerät boot. Anfang Ende Blöcke Id System /dev/sda1 1 62 497983+ 82 Linux Swap / Solaris /dev/sda2 63 671 4891792+ 83 Linux /dev/sda3 672 4864 33680272+ 5 Erweiterte /dev/sda5 672 1280 4891761 83 Linux /dev/sda6 1281 4864 28788448+ 83 Linux Befehl (m für Hilfe): d Partitionsnummer (1-6): 6 Befehl (m für Hilfe): d Partitionsnummer (1-5): 5 Befehl (m für Hilfe): n Befehl Aktion l Logische Partition (5 oder größer) p Primäre Partition (1-4) l Erster Zylinder (672-4864, Vorgabe: 672): Benutze den Standardwert 672 Letzter Zylinder oder +Größe, +GrößeK oder +GrößeM (672-4864, Vorgabe: 4864): +5000M Befehl (m für Hilfe): n Befehl Aktion l Logische Partition (5 oder größer) p Primäre Partition (1-4) l Erster Zylinder (1281-4864, Vorgabe: 1281): Benutze den Standardwert 1281 Letzter Zylinder oder +Größe, +GrößeK oder +GrößeM (1281-4864, Vorgabe: 4864): Benutze den Standardwert 4864 Befehl (m für Hilfe): w Die Partitionstabelle wurde verändert! Rufe ioctl() um Partitionstabelle neu einzulesen. WARNUNG: Neueinlesen der Partitionstabelle führte zu Fehler 16: Das Gerät oder die Ressource ist belegt. Der Kernel benutzt noch die alte Tabelle. Die neue Tabelle wird beim nächsten Neustart verwendet. Synchronisiere Platten. root@amilopro # init 0 Script beendet: Mi 29 Nov 2006 18:48:24 CET ls /dev/sd* does not show /dev/sda4, /dev/sda5, /dev/sda6 ! I cannot mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda5/ dev/sda6 ! no devices. /dev/sda4 cannot be found not as p-partition, nor /dev/sda5 and /dev/sda6 as l-partition. This is Wednesday 19:08 Lots of backfeed regards -- Erich Minderlein <erminderlein(a)locoware.de> MARC Mannheim Rail Commerce GmbH

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PXE-Boot Parameter
by Ralf Moll 29 Nov '06

29 Nov '06

Hi, I'm using GRML via PXE on my debian sarge server. Everything runs perfect, but I noticed, that there is the cheatcode "nodhcp" in the PXE-Docu on http://wiki.grml.org/doku.php?id=terminalserver#booting_grml_without_grml-t… ( LABEL grml KERNEL linux26 APPEND ramdisk_size=16384 root=/dev/ram0 rw init=/etc/init nfsdir=<YOUR IP>:/mnt/nfs/grml \ nodhcp noprompt noeject apm=power-off nomce initrd=minirt26.gz vga=791 ) If I remove the "nodhcp", the client gets an IP and the DNS-Server. With the standard config including "nodhcp", the client gets an IP and is booting, but it gets only manually a DNS-Server entry by running dhcp-client manually. So what is the reason for the nodhcp-entry? BTW: Knoppix uses this entry for pxe-booting, too! cu, ramon

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Boot USB sans IDE noise
by Mark 29 Nov '06

29 Nov '06

One user noticed that older IDE drives (CD, HDD) make noise, depending on age, case vibrations. His USB drive is very quiet. He boots grml from that. Can he boot from USB without powering IDE drives? Grml has an orderly IDE power-off procedure at shutdown. You hear the IDE hard drives click off one by one. The question is best method to invoke the commands at boot time. Of course he can always unplug the power cables manually :-) But customers don't like that. :-) Software control is better anyway.

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A thought about modules
by Juergen Fiedler 28 Nov '06

28 Nov '06

Maybe it is already there and I just managed to miss it this far; if so, I apologize. Here is my thought, anyway: Wouldn't it be neat to have modules containing data and/or executables that can be added to or removed from the system at runtime? I tried the following from the 0.8 live CD with a HD mounted on /mnt/hda1: ------- root@grml:/root# mkdir -p /mnt/hda1/tmp/grml root@grml:/root# unionctl /UNIONFS --add /mnt/hda1/tmp/grml root@grml:/root# unionctl /UNIONFS --mode /ramdisk ro root@grml:/root# aptitude install mtx # [much output omitted] root@grml:/root# unionctl /UNIONFS --mode /ramdisk rw # [wait a few seconds for things to settle] root@grml:/root# unionctl /UNIONFS --remove /mnt/hda1/tmp/grml root@grml:/root# rm -rf /mnt/hda1/tmp/grml/var/ root@grml:/root# rm -rf /mnt/hda1/tmp/grml/root/ # [more cleanup, if necessary] root@grml:/root# mksquashfs /mnt/hda1/tmp/grml /mnt/hda1/tmp/mtx.squashfs ------- This creates a squashed filesystem image that can be added to /UNIONFS: ------- root@grml:/root# mkdir -p /mnt/hda1/tmp/mnt/mtx root@grml:/root# mount -o loop -t squashfs /mnt/hda1/tmp/mtx.squashfs /mnt/hda1/tmp/mnt/mtx root@grml:/root# unionctl /UNIONFS --add --after /ramdisk --mode ro /mnt/hda1/tmp/mnt/mtx ------- After that, mtx is available for use, just as if it was part of the real live CD. Would something like that be useful for grml? Useful enough to create an official set of scripts to create, add and remove such modules? Just wondering, --j

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first release candidate of grml 0.9: grml 0.9-rc1
by Michael Prokop 28 Nov '06

28 Nov '06

Hoi, I'm proud to be able to announce the presence of the first release candidate of grml 0.9 (known as 0.9-rc1). For details about the new release take a look at the release announcement: http://grml.org/files/README-0.9-rc1.php Please give it a try and test all the stuff you usually need so we can provide a rocking stable 0.9 release soon. Known issues for 0.9-rc1 can be found at the grml-wiki: http://wiki.grml.org/doku.php?id=release_candidate Notice: get the ISO from the directory named 'devel' of the mirrors listed at http://grml.org/download/ regards, -mika- -- http://grml.org/ # Linux for texttool-users and sysadmins http://wiki.grml.org/ # share your knowledge http://grml.supersized.org/ # the grml development weblog #grml @ irc.freenode.org # meet us on irc

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Console screen rotation
by Mark 27 Nov '06

27 Nov '06

Is there a way to boot grml with the screen rotated. Once X starts there is xrandr, but console is puzzling. M.

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Nice alias - screenoff
by Mark 27 Nov '06

27 Nov '06

Maybe this could go into grml. We call it "screenoff" - it blanks the screen, saves LCD pixels from burn-in. Can be tied to a GUI button on the user desktop if desired. #! /bin/sh sleep 2 xset s activate

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Sugestion - zshl logout
by Erich Minderlein 27 Nov '06

27 Nov '06

Hi Since my first Linux Day sometimes in 1997 I was a bash shell user, made a lot of scripting and was happy. Now I found grml and its zsh and it is sssssssssssuuuuuuuuupppppppppeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrr. Small suggestion : in the /etc/zsh/logout I added the small word "reset" which automatically leaves a clean console when logging out. I like that and nobody nosing around. also security concern. regards -- Erich Minderlein <erminderlein(a)locoware.de> MARC Mannheim Rail Commerce GmbH

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grml-small on a usb stick
by Tube 26 Nov '06

26 Nov '06

hi list, hi mikap, is it possible to install a grml-small on a usb-stick from an ordinary grml2hd'ed system? my intention is not to waste a whole CD only for that installation. TIA tube

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Debian repos based on locale
by Mark 26 Nov '06

26 Nov '06

Default apt sources for grml are .de & .at domains. For grml proper, ok. For external Debian packages, default apt sources based on locale would be nice. (Debian.org subdomains make this fairly easy, yes?) The user should get continental selection between Europe, Africa, Asia, North America, South America. The big problem is going over ocean cables for apt updates. No need for separate files. Have all repos listed in one file, commented out. Scripts like grml2hd can comment-in as appropriate to finalize. M.

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[Grml] slow start of xserver , very poor responsiveness with nohwcap
by Erich Minderlein 25 Nov '06

25 Nov '06

Hello see also my contributions @ http://lists.mur.at/pipermail/grml/ where I followed before on this subject Hardware : Amilo Pro Notebook V2030 Inter celeron , 1,5 GHz, 256 MByte RAM, VGA Via <6>ACPI: Video Device [VGA] (multi-head: yes rom: no post: no) -- CGA/Mono Video supported ACPI supported USB Legacy supported AGP supported -- lspci -vvs 0000:01:00.0 >> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UniChrome Pro IGP (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: Fujitsu Siemens Computer GmbH Unknown device 109b Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 10 Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M] Memory at d1000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [70] AGP version 2.0 I was wondering why this beast was slower in starting X than my (with display mechanically broken Toshiba Portege 3110CT) Subnotebook with PentiumII 300Mhz, 192 MByte and a 7 GB HDD. from the last millenium. (I use it as xterminal right now!) sw: a system mixed from unstable and the grml distro kernel 2.6.17-grml I did init 5 (for Xserver ) ps ax and checked PID for the gdm processes strace -f ... PID (2*) ALT F7 login in with my $USER $PASSWORD CTRL ALT F1 init 2 I found that 427 accesses for /etc/ld.so.nohwcap were happening, and no file there. touch /etc/ld.so.nohwcap and it maked 822 accesses, but slightly faster. I think this is a performance killer. Mailingliste grml recommended to report it to debian-x, so here we go. Please feel free to ask more, also that I did deinstall this Xorg server now. regards -- Erich Minderlein <erminderlein(a)locoware.de> MARC Mannheim Rail Commerce GmbH

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amilopro slow : solution (part if it)
by Erich Minderlein 25 Nov '06

25 Nov '06

Hello during a login to the x-server the strace reveals that 472 file accesses to /etc/ld.so.nohwcap result with -1, because the file is nowhere and also not there. touch /etc/ld.so.nohwcap helps partly, it would even be better, if the file is not a million times asked for. best regards -- Erich Minderlein <erminderlein(a)locoware.de> MARC Mannheim Rail Commerce GmbH

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kernel 2.6.17-grml & software suspend to disk / swap
by Erich Minderlein 24 Nov '06

24 Nov '06

Hello What is provided in the kernel to do softwaresuspend ? I would like to avoid to compile a new kernel, what will you recommand to get softwaresuspend aka hibernate working? regards -- Erich Minderlein <erminderlein(a)locoware.de> MARC Mannheim Rail Commerce GmbH

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[Fwd: Re: startx minor bug : argument -listen instaed of -nolisten]
by Erich Minderlein 23 Nov '06

23 Nov '06

-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Von: Julien Cristau <jcristau(a)liafa.jussieu.fr> An: Erich Minderlein <erminderlein(a)locoware.de> Kopie: Debian X Strike Force <debian-x(a)lists.debian.org> Betreff: Re: startx minor bug : argument -listen instaed of -nolisten Datum: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:34:14 +0100 On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 14:59:40 +0100, Erich Minderlein wrote: > Hello > I don't know if I am up to date : > I see this bug and it did not go away in an upgrade, > so i fixed it from hand : > however if it comes from some debian package , it's reason must be found > $ GET http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/svn/xorg-x11/tags/app/xbase-clients/xbase-cli… #!/bin/sh # $Id: xserverrc 189 2005-06-11 00:04:27Z branden $ exec /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp --- You've probably modified this file yourself, because as far as I know it's been this way since a long time in the debian packages. Cheers, Julien

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xinit , xinitrc, startx
by Erich Minderlein 23 Nov '06

23 Nov '06

Hallo when using the binaries from sarge I have dpkg -l xbase-clients Gewünscht=Unbekannt/Installieren/R=Entfernen/P=Säubern/Halten | Status=Nicht/Installiert/Config/U=Entpackt/Fehlgeschl. Konf./Halb install. |/ Fehler?=(keiner)/Halten/R=Neuinst. notw/X=beides (Status, Fehler: GROß=schlecht) ||/ Name Version Beschreibung +++-================-=========================-====================== ii xbase-clients 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge2 miscellaneous X clients dpkg -S xserverrc xbase-clients: /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc grep listen /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc exec /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp ==============================^ when using the binaries from testing/unstable on a grml system (amilopro) I have dpkg -l xbase-clients Gewünscht=Unbekannt/Installieren/R=Entfernen/P=Säubern/Halten | Status=Nicht/Installiert/Config/U=Entpackt/Fehlgeschl. Konf./Halb install. |/ Fehler?=(kein)/Halten/R=Neuinst notw/X=beide (Status, Fehler: GROSS=schlecht) ||/ Name Version Beschreibung +++-=================-====================-================ ii xbase-clients 7.1.ds-3 miscellaneous X clients dpkg -S xserverrc xbase-clients: /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc grep listen /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc exec /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 100 -listen tcp ==============================^ when I do /usr/bin/X11/X the xserver starts. when I do startx the x server does not start, it does not accept the argument "-listen" . ( as planned, but why what or who changed the script ? grml or package maintainer ? and who must fix it? ) regards -- Erich Minderlein <erminderlein(a)locoware.de> MARC Mannheim Rail Commerce GmbH

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AMILOPRO V2030 sluggish : cpu frequency modulation slow speedstep-centrino vs. p4-clockmod
by Erich Minderlein 22 Nov '06

22 Nov '06

Hello Frequency is increasing to the limit of 1500 MHz and keyboard response is much better during the test, then decreasing again. Also with other processes frequency scaling by userspace is varying. Thank you, with this inquiry I found out, that the problem is with another issue, (X.org), this will not bother you and I follow up there. Thank you again > date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 21:46:25 +0100 > From: Michael Prokop <mika(a)grml.org> > Subject: Re: [Grml] AMILOPRO V2030 sluggish : cpu frequency modulation > slow speedstep-centrino vs. p4-clockmod > To: grml(a)mur.at > Message-ID: <2006-11-21T21-30-36(a)devnull.michael-prokop.at> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > * Erich Minderlein <erminderlein(a)locoware.de> [20061121 21:29]: > > > cpufrequtils 002: cpufreq-info (C) Dominik Brodowski 2004-2006 > [...] > > Hardwarebedingte Grenzen der Taktfrequenz: 188 MHz - 1.50 GHz > > mgliche Taktfrequenzen: 188 MHz, 375 MHz, 563 MHz, 750 MHz, 938 MHz, > > 1.13 GHz, 1.31 GHz, 1.50 GHz > > mgliche Regler: userspace, performance > > momentane Taktik: die Frequenz soll innerhalb 188 MHz und 1.50 GHz. > > liegen. Der Regler "userspace" kann frei > > entscheiden, > > welche Taktfrequenz innerhalb dieser Grenze > > verwendet wird. > > momentane Taktfrequenz ist 188 MHz (verifiziert durch Nachfrage bei > > der Hardware). > > That looks OK for me - basically. Are powernowd or cpudyn running, > right? > > > this is not what we want ! > > so the change of frequency is not allowed as I understand > > No, your system should adjust cpu frequency according to the needs. > Services like powernowd can handle that for you. You can adjust the > limits manually as well, see > http://acpi.sourceforge.net/documentation/processor.html > > If you do not want to use frequency scaling at all you just have to > unload the cpu-frequency modules of course. > > But let's check whether your system really adjusts frequency > according to your needs. So just run cpuburn-in and take a look at > the current processor frequency (running cpu-screen, > cpufreq-info,... or just 'cat > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq'). Is it still > at 188MHz is it increasing? > > Whover choose the smp for a single cpu laptop or is this double core ? > > Hm? > > The SMP-alternatives feature of recent kernels allows use of SMP > enabled kernels on unicore systems, nothing to care about. > thanks understood this, now one kernel variant less

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AMILOPRO V2030 sluggish : cpu frequency modulation slow speedstep-centrino vs. p4-clockmod
by Erich Minderlein 21 Nov '06

21 Nov '06

Hello oder Hallo cpufrequtils 002: cpufreq-info (C) Dominik Brodowski 2004-2006 Bitte melden Sie Fehler an linux(a)brodo.de. analysiere CPU 0: Treiber: p4-clockmod Folgende CPUs können nur gleichzeitig ihre Frequenz variieren: 0 Hardwarebedingte Grenzen der Taktfrequenz: 188 MHz - 1.50 GHz mögliche Taktfrequenzen: 188 MHz, 375 MHz, 563 MHz, 750 MHz, 938 MHz, 1.13 GHz, 1.31 GHz, 1.50 GHz mögliche Regler: userspace, performance momentane Taktik: die Frequenz soll innerhalb 188 MHz und 1.50 GHz. liegen. Der Regler "userspace" kann frei entscheiden, welche Taktfrequenz innerhalb dieser Grenze verwendet wird. momentane Taktfrequenz ist 188 MHz (verifiziert durch Nachfrage bei der Hardware). this is not what we want ! so the change of frequency is not allowed as I understand uname -a : Linux amilopro 2.6.17-grml #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Jul 25 10:57:35 CEST 2006 i686 GNU/Linux Whover choose the smp for a single cpu lap top oris this double core ? regards -- Erich Minderlein <erminderlein(a)locoware.de> MARC Mannheim Rail Commerce GmbH

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Terminal autologin
by Shehu Dikko 21 Nov '06

21 Nov '06

Where is the tty autologin stuff configured? I'd like to switch things around but can't locate the config files. regards s h e h u --

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JFYI: mail policy /spamfilters of mailinglist server
by Michael Prokop 20 Nov '06

20 Nov '06

Hoi, just to inform you about the mail policy of the grml mailinglist(s), thanksfully hosted at mur.at: Since 14th of November 2006 a new mail policy regarding the spamfilters is active, see http://mur.at/support/mail/policy-1?set_language=en for details. If you don't know what to do right now just forget my mail. ;) But if you *might* notice any problems with sending mails to the grml mailinglist please let me know. Just send me a personal mail (off the list) providing bounce details/logs so we (mainly Jogi of NOC @ mur.at) can investigate. JFYI && regards, -mika- -- http://grml.org/ # Linux for texttool-users and sysadmins http://wiki.grml.org/ # share your knowledge http://grml.supersized.org/ # the grml development weblog #grml @ irc.freenode.org # meet us on irc

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AMILOPRO V2030 sluggish : cpu frequency modulation slow ? speedstep-centrino vs. p4-clockmod
by Erich Minderlein 20 Nov '06

20 Nov '06

Hi Google is responding poorly with this problem. My AMILOPRO V2030 with 1.5 GHertz centrino gives the following output: /var/log/kern.log: Nov 20 16:33:49 amilopro kernel: p4-clockmod: Warning: Pentium M detected. The speedstep_centrino module offers voltage scaling in addition of frequency scaling. You should use that instead of p4-clockmod, if possible. Nov 20 16:33:49 amilopro kernel: p4-clockmod: P4/Xeon(TM) CPU On-Demand Clock Modulation available /proc/cpuinfo: processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 13 model name : Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.50GHz stepping : 8 cpu MHz : 187.500 cache size : 1024 KB fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss tm pbe up bogomips : 3019.16 I have put p4-clockmod in /etc/modprobe/blacklist , but output of kern.log remains the same after init 6 locate speedstep-centrino shows the driver is there. What else can I doo to use correct driver and crank cpu speed up after keypressed ? best regards -- Erich Minderlein <erminderlein(a)locoware.de> MARC Mannheim Rail Commerce GmbH

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Norton Guide Reader
by T 18 Nov '06

18 Nov '06

Hi I'm wondering if any of you still remember those Norton Guides. IHMO, the Norton Guide collection is the most comprehensive on-line document about anything for you PC, from Bios, to any programming language. Well written, far more easy to navigate. I found a Norton Guide Reader For GNU/Linux at http://www.davep.org/norton-guides/ mike, would you care to build a Debian package for it? 'cause the comprehensive Norton Guide collection is still floating around the Internet... (it is also perfectly ok if you don't :->) -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/

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FW: [rdiff-backup-users] Debian debs with patch fix for #355178
by devzero＠web.de 18 Nov '06

18 Nov '06

Hello ! for the moment i have no suitable debian system for testing around, but this one (see below) is an important bugfixed version of librsync and also rdiff-backup, countaining a patch which fixes a >4gb file problem. maybe some candidate for 0.9 !? (needs testing, though) for details, also see https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1439412&group_id=… librsync folks still didn`t do a new librsync release because the maintainers seem to have more important to do with their other projects ;) regards roland > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Faheem Mitha <faheem(a)email.unc.edu> > Gesendet: 10.11.06 20:10:57 > An: rdiff-backup-users(a)nongnu.org > Betreff: [rdiff-backup-users] Debian debs with patch fix for #355178 > > Hi everyone, > > I just ran into Debian bug #355178, reported by Dean Gaudet. See > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=355178, which has > links to a corresponding bug report on sourceforge. I imagine some/all > people here are already aware of this bug, though. > > This was with a 4.2 Gig Zope Data.fs database file. I ignored it for a > bit hoping it would go away. It didn't, but I was relieved to learn > that this was a known bug with a patch. > > I spent quite a lot of time yesterday, patching librsync and > rebuilding rdiff-backup against it. > > You can get the librsync and rdiff-backup debs (for sarge) from > > deb http://dulci.org/~faheem/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free > deb-src http://dulci.org/~faheem/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free > > As expected, it made the problem go away. > > NB. If anyone is considering setting up an apt repository, consider > using reprepro (http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/286). It > makes the process quite easy. > > Does anyone know any friendly Debian developers would could be > persuaded to do NMUs of librsync and rdiff-backup? It would be a good > thing if this fix could go in for etch. > > I also have a question for Dean Gaudet. Since you are the only one > apparently committing now to rdiff-backup (at least in the last few > months), do you know if there are any plans to put out a new release > in the near future with fixes? > > Faheem. > > > _______________________________________________ > rdiff-backup-users mailing list at rdiff-backup-users(a)nongnu.org > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/rdiff-backup-users > Wiki URL: http://rdiff-backup.solutionsfirst.com.au/index.php/RdiffBackupWiki _____________________________________________________________________ Der WEB.DE SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! http://smartsurfer.web.de/?mc=100071&distributionid=000000000066

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Code2blog: Source-highlight frontend
by T 16 Nov '06

16 Nov '06

Hi Do you blog a lot? Do you sometimes include code in you blog? Do you want that your code show up colorfully in you blog? then use Code2blog, the source-highlight frontend! It can be used to highlight on-the-fly a program so that the formatted form (HTML) can be easily copied and then pasted in your blog. This frontend is written using Python (version 4) and pyGTK. http://code.google.com/p/code2blog/ -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/

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xsel: Doesn't work correctly in a UTF-8 environment
by T 16 Nov '06

16 Nov '06

Hi I notice an outstanding bugs for xsel -- Doesn't work correctly in a UTF-8 environment. However, there is a patch for it: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=231413 ,----- | This adds UTF8 support without breaking things. New command-line option | (-u|--utf8) switches between XA_STRING and UTF8_STRING selection | targets. When UTF8_STRING is not supported by X-server, xsel falls back to | XA_STRING. | | Please note, this patch also fixes #203925 (manpage bug). `----- mika, would you be so kind to build a new version with the patch, since it is already 2 years and 283 days old? thanks PS. for mlist, If you don't use/know xsel, I highly recommend it. -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/

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Mixer
by Christoph Hartung 14 Nov '06

14 Nov '06

Morgen, sitz hier an einem Asus A6T, Grml Live CD 0.8 Funkenzutzler. Bitte das Mikro vom aumix bei zukünftigen Versionen auf Null setzen, auf der A6T Reihe gibt es böse Feedbacks zwischen Mikro und Lautsprecher, hat bei mir ein ganzes Einfamilienhaus aufgeweckt, bin nichtmal dazu gekommen, aumix aufzurufen bevor wer durch die Tür gehüpft kam ;) MFG Christoph

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Writing to Hard Drives from LiveCD
by Juergen Fiedler 14 Nov '06

14 Nov '06

I have observed something odd: When I write data to a mounted hard drive partition while running from the livecd, the amount of written data is subtracted from the free RAM, i.e., if I do a dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/hda1/tmp/testfile bs=1M count=512 with /dev/hda1 mounted on /mnt/hda1, I am losing 512M of my RAM; deleting the file frees up that RAM. After rebooting, the file is still there, but doesn't take up any RAM anymore. I think I may be missing something vitally important about how the unionfs is set up. Can anybody please tell me how I can write files to an HD without them taking up RAM, too? Any help would be much appreciated! Cheers, --j

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/etc/fstab and mounting USB drives
by Tom White 14 Nov '06

14 Nov '06

The latest rebuildfstab in my grml installed on hd has these entries: LABEL=MX320G /mnt/MX320G ntfs noauto,user,dev,suid,exec,ro,umask=000,uid=tom,gid=tom 0 0 # /dev/sda1 /dev/usb-sda1 /mnt/usb-sda1 auto user,noauto,nodev,noatime,nosuid,noexec,rw,uid=tom,gid=tom 0 0 Those are the same drive. mount /mnt/MX320G doesn't work; it complains about no LABEL=MX320G device. mount /mnt/usb-sda1 does work, but I don't like the "rw" on my ntfs file system. Here's another pair from /etc/fstab that mount a vfat fs: LABEL=MX200G /mnt/MX200G vfat noauto,user,dev,suid,exec,umask=000,uid=tom,gid=tom 0 0 # /dev/sdb1 /dev/usb-sdb1 /mnt/usb-sdb1 auto user,noauto,nodev,noatime,nosuid,noexec,rw,uid=tom,gid=tom 0 0 Both mount /mnt/MX200G and mount /mnt/usb-sdb1 work. -- Tom White

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nifty little tool -- histring
by T 12 Nov '06

12 Nov '06

[instigated by the fact that aamath was newly added to grml repository] Hi, Like to work in console more than X? Like text tools more than GUI ones? Then this small tools is definitely for you -- histring. http://www.kw.kernel.org/pub/mirrors/freebsd/ncvs/ports/misc/histring/ histring simply highlights strings using ANSI terminal escape codes. but the usage is endless. I almost use it everywhere in my script where I need a quick peek into large output. For example, zip -t *.zip 2>&1 | histring -fEi 'warning |bad CRC|error: ' | less will tell me if any of the zips files has any problem. Once you get used to it, you can't image the life without it. The following is another nifty alias that I use more often than anything else, to accept output from diff or rcsdiff to highlight diffs. histring -fE '^Comparing files .*|^diff .*' | histring -c yellow -fE '^\-.*' | histring -c green -fE '^\+.*' With that, who needs to wait for 0.5s for tkdiff? :-) Also, with that I wrote another alias to compare rcs file version by version. I guess no other diffing tool have such ability to show how things evolve. Hope we can have that in grml repository soon... -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/

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Not all packages on CD are in repository?
by T 12 Nov '06

12 Nov '06

Hi, while examine the outout from apt-show-versions, I feel that not all packages on CD are in repository (grml.org or debian). Is that so? Just list only a few of my findings... pcopy 1.5-4 newer than version in archive libdbus-1-2 0.62-4 installed: No available version in archive kwtools-sys-lvm 0.5.0-5 installed: No available version in archive securecgi 0.11.1 installed: No available version in archive kwtools-bin 0.5.0-5 installed: No available version in archive libdirectfb-0.9-24 0.9.24-4 installed: No available version in archive xcompmgr 1.1.1+cvs.20051218-1 installed: No available version in archive synctree 0.8-1 installed: No available version in archive libsvn0 1.3.2-5+b1 newer than version in archive thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/

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permanently saving alsa-config
by Peter Eberl 11 Nov '06

11 Nov '06

OK, having here a Fujitsu-Siemens B110 subnotebook running fine on grml. I noticed a strange thing: setting up the sound with alsaconf works fine. I would expect that the settings (for the soundcards) are saved permanently and started automatically. It isn't. The settings dissappear and after reboot they are lost. what are my wrong assumptions and how can I adjust the environment to meet them? regards peb -- I use grml (http://grml.org/)

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Allow user to handle their own print jobs
by T 11 Nov '06

11 Nov '06

Hi How to allow users to handle their own print queue? $ lprm 26 Password for tong on localhost? How can I configure my Debian so that users can freely handle their own print jobs (not others), and not bothered with password every time? thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/

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X and Console, grml 0.8 , latest update last week
by Erich Minderlein 09 Nov '06

09 Nov '06

Hallo Mika Amilopro V2030, 256 MByte RAM, 1,5 GHz Celeron The video framebuffer eats a minimum of 16 MByte from this RAM, I cannot adjust less in the BIOS. (Choice of 16/32/64 MByte) 1. Sometimes the notebook is very sluggish on the console, it takes several seconds to react. (runlevel 2, no swap space used) I believe the zsh does it with looking for too many aliases) 2. Starting X with init 5 and logging in as user terminates the session immediately and the login screen reappears and the grml browser starts. This has to do with file permissions, I had it on debian sarge too, forgot how to fix it. 3. Changing to console with CTRL-ALT-F# (console number) does not erase the x window, but gives only writes of the whitish parts of the console output in an unreadable way, obviously the pixel lines / columns memory order is not realigned to the display mode. best regards -- Erich Minderlein <erminderlein(a)locoware.de> MARC Mannheim Rail Commerce GmbH

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Suggestions
by Michael Schierl 08 Nov '06

08 Nov '06

Hi, some things I noticed when using grml 0.8 recently that might be changed some day to make grml even better: 1. When loading grml on older machines there is a noticable delay (and cdrom activity) when there are loaded lots of screen and zsh instances into the virtual consoles. I'd like to have a cheatcode (or a runlevel) that only loads programs for console 1 at startup. Other consoles are loaded after a key has been pressed there. For those consoles that use rungetty, its --prompt option could be used to archieve this. 2. Having GRUB available on GRML is great. However, I'd like to have a few "Grub keyboard layouts" included for people who, unlike me, cannot find all that special chars like = or / on an American keyboard layout. You can find a German and a French layout on my bootdisk (or its config files) available at <http://home.arcor.de/mschierlm/bootdisk/>. On the other hand, you can save about 1MB on CD by using a 360KB floppy image instead of a 1.44MB one. (I tested it and chainloading a 360KB GRUB disk image from memdisk works.) 3. When, for some reason, I need grml booted on two machines and cannot use the grml-terminalserver (for example because I may not interfere with DHCP servers in the network and do not have a crossover network cable with me either) I like to use the toram option. But, obviously, it needs lots of RAM and time to get started. In these cases grml-small would be better. But I want to carry around as few disks as possible. So I thought if it is possible to splitting the squashfs image into two images that are merged by unionfs, where the smaller one contains a basic system that includes all stuff from grml-small (which may be larger than 50MB, but as small as possible) and have a cheatcode to load only the small part into ram (and not use the large part at all). I do not know if this is feasible in the grml build process (obviously it will require some extra work of splitting the image), but it would be cool. I don't know any live cd that tries to do things like this, so perhaps it is not possible...? 4. The bootsplash flickers quite a lot. You might reduce flickering by replacing the »/usr/bin/clear« by »echo -ne '\033[H\033[25l'« which will not clear the screen but move the cursor to top and set the cursor invisible. Another nice thing would be having boot messages scrolling in a small "window" inside the bootsplash, like it can be done by »ESC [ first ; last r« (see »man console_codes | less +/region«), but since I do not know how many users are using bootsplash anyway (I usually do not), this is just eye-candy and very low priority for me :-) Feel free to flame me now ;-) Michael

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Clean installs?
by s. keeling 07 Nov '06

07 Nov '06

I've done about four grml-small (latest version) installs so far. None of them have survived "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" (and friends). Each time, a different package failed to install, holding up the rest of the upgrade. I have managed to get X installed, but it's sad that the rest of it won't go. I'll keep playing with it. My only real complaint is that grml2hd assumes my rtc is set to localtime. "utc" and "tz=Canada/Mountain" are quietly ignored. Nice system, and lots of fun to play with. :-) -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling Please don't Cc: me. - -

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Grml/Grml-small sort of progress report.
by s. keeling 06 Nov '06

06 Nov '06

A while back, I got the latest grml, burned it, and have now finally returned to it. Contrary to the last (0.7) version, this one actually sees a valid partition on my second hard drive, /dev/hdc. Grml proceeds to install and continues 'til it's killed. My disk is only 2 Gb, and Grml wants 2.7 Gb. So, I download grml-small, boot into it, and grml2hd[*] reports: ----------------------------------- Error: partition=/dev/hdc1 does not seem to be an existing partition. Please use a program like cfdisk to create partition partition=/dev/hdc1 and restart grml2hd. ----------------------------------- Both fdisk and cfdisk show the partition, and full Grml took it and ran with the install. So, what's grml-small's problem? Disk is a Seagate ST32122A [*] grml2hd partition=/dev/hdc1 mbr=/dev/hdc filesystem=ext2 \ user=keeling root=/dev/hdc1 -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling Please don't Cc: me. - -

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aamath - ascii art for math
by Mark 06 Nov '06

06 Nov '06

http://fuse.superglue.se/aamath/ "aamath is a program that reads mathematical expressions in infix notation and renders them as ASCII art. It may be useful to send mathematics through text-only media, such as e-mail or newsgroups."

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ipw2200 monitor mode
by carli graph 03 Nov '06

03 Nov '06

hi, i have grml@hd, ipw2200 modules -1.0.8 with linux-headers-2.6.16-grml, so i think it's grml 0.7 and don't know witch driverversion... and monitor mode doesn't work: # iwconfig eth0 mode monitor Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) : SET failed on device eth0 ; Invalid argument. please, does anyone know how to get working this? thanks, markus.

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autopano-sift on grml?
by Lars Schimmer 03 Nov '06

03 Nov '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi! I try to use hugin anf autopano-sift from debian-multimedia.org on my grml HD install. But if I try to run autopanog I just get the error: "zsh: fehler im Format der Programmdatei: autopanog" Has anyone a tip for me? MfG, Lars Schimmer - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------- TU Graz, Institut für ComputerGraphik & WissensVisualisierung Tel: +43 316 873-5405 E-Mail: l.schimmer(a)cgv.tugraz.at Fax: +43 316 873-5402 PGP-Key-ID: 0x4A9B1723 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQFFSzxImWhuE0qbFyMRAqpUAKCJspvmYCITOdkLzKgAZFRwwy5sEACfaAxn jvVHp3fPJqyySUgYZAZziLY= =48e2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Grml] Is accessing striped "dynamic disks" from GRML possible?
by Ulrich Dangel 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

* Michael Schierl wrote [02.11.06 22:14]: Hi Michael, i resend this to the list, because probably you get some cool and nice suggestions for an console calculator :) > <offtopic> > Windows Internal, but it works... > </offtopic> Nice :-) > > Try the link above and build it on you're own. > But: What calculator to use in grml for all that hex/decimal conversions > (and multiplications and additions)? Try python. Just enter 0xfa or something and you get the corresponding decimal value. If you want the hex value of a decimal number, use hex($numer) and it works. You can calculate with hex values in bc when you set the base. Just do an ibase=16 and it should work. > There is no orpie (great console RPN calculator) and GNU Calculator > for Emacs is not there either. Okay, dc/bc is there, but I don't know > (and could not figure out by grepping the man page) how they can > handle hex numbers... Hm, i just tried orpie and i think python is much nicer, especially if you use ipython. > libgcc and libstdc++ are too old when "dpkg -i"-ing it from the > grml-0.8 CD. Thanks anyway. Hm, i used grml 0.8.3 or something like that, and it worked out of the box. I can rebuild it, if you really need it. > Michael Uli -- WARNING: RAID-6 is currently highly experimental. If you use it, there is no guarantee whatsoever that it won't destroy your data, eat your disk drives, insult your mother, or re-appoint George W. Bush. /usr/src/linux/drivers/md/Kconfig - 2.6.8

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Is accessing striped "dynamic disks" from GRML possible?
by Michael Schierl 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

Hi, I wanted to rescue some files from a broken Win2000 install with grml. The data to rescue were stored on a striped partition on a dynamic disk (Windows' equivalent to a software raid0). However, I did not manage it to reassemble or mount this partition. it appeared as two separate partitions (one on each drive). Google suggested to run ldminfo, but that tool is not there, and I could not find it :( I eventually managed to rescue the files by booting from a BartPE disk and using the commandline "diskpart" tool to reassemble the RAID and assign a drive letter to it. Does anyone know a way to access these files from grml? Or is it impossible to do this from Linux and I have to include a BartPE disk in my rescue disk set as well? TIA, Michael

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Re: [Grml] BadRam/BadMem Kernelpatch
by devzero＠web.de 01 Nov '06

01 Nov '06

>So IMO this would only be useful for private use. i don`t think so - at least i wouldn`t say it`s only usefule for private use if you mean "home use" - think of developing countries where people cannot afford replacing their ram because of just "one bit out of millions" is bad - think of companies with large test/development environments which are not mission critical. we have many boxes out of service contract at work - and we still use them until they die or getting too old - think of a server which constantly crashes during a recover you try with grml - due to bad ram. should you really buy new ram for that machine if it gets replaced, anyway - and you just need it being running stable for the recovery process ? maybe this is just a theoretical scenario, but the discussion about the pro`s and con`s of badram patch is very controversial. anyway - i heard there will be an request for inclusion into mainline soon. roland > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Andreas Gredler <jimmy(a)grml.org> > Gesendet: 30.10.06 13:55:46 > An: grml(a)mur.at > Betreff: Re: [Grml] BadRam/BadMem Kernelpatch > On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 03:02:15PM +0100, devzero(a)web.de wrote: > > Description: > > > > BadRAM: Linux kernel support for broken RAM modules Summary: This page > > proposes an approach to support RAMs with defective addresses, This > > may open interesting business perspectives, where those RAMs can be > > sold under a white label for less money rather than discarded of > > without any profit. > > If you talk about business... Broken RAM always gets replaced by new > modules, since this is mission critical and covered by warranty and/or > service contracts. Additionally, "real" servers mirror RAM and have spare > RAMs installed. > So IMO this would only be useful for private use. > > greets Jimmy > > -- > Andreas "Jimmy" Gredler > ,'"`. http://www.jimmy.co.at/ | jimmy(a)g-tec.co.at > ( grml.org -» Linux Live-CD for texttool-users and sysadmins > `._, http://www.grml.org/ | jimmy(a)grml.org > _______________________________________________ > Grml mailing list - Grml(a)mur.at > http://lists.mur.at/mailman/listinfo/grml > join #grml on irc.freenode.org > grml-devel-blog: http://grml.supersized.org/ _____________________________________________________________________ Der WEB.DE SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! http://smartsurfer.web.de/?mc=100071&distributionid=000000000066

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Starting domain name service bind failed
by T 01 Nov '06

01 Nov '06

Hi I used to use a caching only name server under Debian. When I start the same setting under grml, I get: % /etc/init.d/bind9 restart Stopping domain name service...: bindrndc: connection to remote host closed This may indicate that the remote server is using an older version of the command protocol, this host is not authorized to connect, or the key is invalid. failed! Starting domain name service...: bind failed! What could be wrong? Or, how to setup a caching only name server under grml? Thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/

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Re: mixing of distributions grml - unstable - testing - sarge for notebook
by Erich Minderlein 31 Okt '06

31 Okt '06

Hello Liste Thank you for the advice I have decided to keep to "grml", so from now the installation will become cleaner and cleaner. What when 0.9 is in the pipeline and comes out? best regards Erich Minderlein

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grml time
by Erich Minderlein 31 Okt '06

31 Okt '06

Hello liste Since the weekend time transition CEST to CET my notebook is 2 hours ahead of local time. How to adjust the time that : hwclock runs GMT local clock shows CEST or CET as needed ? This has been asked when installing, but I did not find any advise how to correct the settings This is surely a FAQ Item best regards Erich Minderlein

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