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C-M emacs key binding conflicts with fluxbox window manager
by Peter 03 Mär '08

03 Mär '08

Hi I am using emacs 22.1.1 (GTK+ version) in a fluxbox environment. There are conflicts with C-M emacs bindings and the window manager. When I type for example C-M-f in emacs (that is Control key and Alt key pressed simultaneously and then followed by the key "f"), then the firefox webbrowser opens. Obviously the window manager sees the key sequence before emacs and intercepts it. What is the recommended practice to maintain C-M emacs key bindings (remapping them all would be a pain) when working in fluxbox ? Thanks for your help. Peter

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Grml and inetd
by T o n g 01 Mär '08

01 Mär '08

Hi, How does Grml start Internet services? I noticed that my grml does not have either inetd or xinetd installed. So how does my ssh, ftp services get started? thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/

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grml2hd questions
by didi.segbert＠arcor.de 28 Feb '08

28 Feb '08

Hello, i have some questions for the use of grml2hd. I have stopped my tests to boot grml from usb-stick via linld. The grml 1.1 RC6 iso boots very fine on my normal pc. speakup and brltty are working very good. I want to install this grml version on a) a empty harddisk /dev/hdc6 (4 GB) and start from Dos via loadlin, i don't want to use a boot loader, and b) i want to install grml onto a 4 GB SDHC card, so that i can boot my asus eeepc from this card, because on the inside 4 GB SSD is windows xp installed. Is it correct to use the grml2hd as follows: grml2hd /dev/hdc6 or grml2hd /dev/sdb Can i add options, because the brailledisplay shows only the "ok" or "continue" or "cancel", but not the options in the menues. Regards Dietmar.

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Grml version in /etc/issue?
by T o n g 27 Feb '08

27 Feb '08

Hi, Is it a good idea to put Grml's version in /etc/issue? I have a bunch of Grml test installations in my VMware disks, and I've forgot which is which now. That's why I'm wondering... -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/

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ftp server
by josh 27 Feb '08

27 Feb '08

Hi, Is it possible to set up a modern ftp server with grml? Josh email: jkenn337(a)gmail.com skype: jkenn337 msn: kenn6498ku(a)hotmail.com

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grml-medium package requests
by Jon 27 Feb '08

27 Feb '08

Hi mika, I tried the -medium release earlier today, as I wanted to backup files off a Windows machine. I should've looked at grml.org/files first, but I found sshfs, ntfs-3g and rdiff-backup were all missing. Since they're fairly small and quite useful for getting things off Windows partitions, I wondered if they could be included in -medium by default? Cheers.

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Advocate GRUB for DOS (Grub4Dos)
by T o n g 26 Feb '08

26 Feb '08

Hi, I saw that there are recent discussion about the linld boot loader. For a versatile and feature-rich boot loader, I recommend Grub4Dos. So far, seems to me that the GRUB for DOS is still a hidden treasure that most people haven't realized its beauty and power. Please don't be confused by its name, GRUB for DOS, Grub4Dos is actually the best GRUB boot loader so far until GRUB2 is able to catch up with Grub4Dos's features and get mature enough. In a nutshell, it is advanced GRUB that - is 100% compatible with gnu grub 0.97 - so it is a given to have multiple levels of submenus. This is ideal to put multiple distros into the same disk, while keeping and maintain each distros' boot menu individually, instead of having a humongous root menu to gulp everything. - actively developed and maintained instead of feature-frozen - can use nice boot up graphics without patching - can be used as the boot loader for both CDROM and HD, which means * no more disjointed modules (Isolinux/Syslinux) any more * no need to endure the limitation of Syslinux from Isolinux any more * no need to develop separate methods to boot from CDROM and HD installation any more - can chainload Isolinux (when used as bootable cd-loader), Syslinux, BCDW, EZBOOT (EasyBoot), etc. - can be put in and boot from both Linux and Windows major partitions * the ideal boot loader for Slax and its derived distros that can reside in both Linux and Windows partitions * no need to develop separate methods to boot from Linux based or Windows based HD installation any more - can be used from within both Linux and Windows environments - its hybrid executable can be launched from both Linux and DOS/Windows - uses two step booting instead of three so that it is easier to install and will not break even if you rearrange your partitions. - is the only boot loader that can boot up CDROM - can boot up not only floppy disk images but also Hard Disk/ZIP Disk/HDD-USB images - can even boot *straight from* some no-emulation-mode CD .iso files - can use file as well as partition as the source of the ramdisk - can use memdisk devices loaded by inited - can even map a specified range of memory as a ramdisk Ref: GRUB for DOS http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Boot/GRUB-for-DOS-3507.shtml GRUB for DOS tutorial http://grub4dos.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Grub4dos_tutorial GRUB for DOS more detailed examples http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/nix/disk/boot/boot07-GrubForDos/ HTH -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/

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Ralink RT61 support in grml1.1
by Andreas Gruber 26 Feb '08

26 Feb '08

Hi all! AFAIK, the RT2500 (and others of the RT2X-series) -Wlan-driver is supportet since gml0.9 or earlier by a grml-package. Can You tell me, if there's an package for the RT61-driver of Ralink in grml1.1. At the moment, my notebook uses Debian etch with a PCMCIA-Wlan-card with RT61 - it works, but it was a little bit difficult to manage it. I would be great, to install grml on these notebook. ...and not to forget: grml1.1 - great work - congratulations to the team around Mika! Andi -- _________________________________________________________ Meinen GnuPG-Key finden Sie z.B. bei keyserver.net. Meine Key-ID lautet 0x424B2C57. Business-Contacts: https://www.xing.com/hp/Andreas_Gruber17/

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linld boot options
by didi.segbert＠arcor.de 23 Feb '08

23 Feb '08

Hello, i want to boot grml with linld. The grml.squashfs, linux26 and initrd.gz are in /live. The kernel boots up to the prompt "initramfs". But i can not do anything , because swspeak and brltty is not on. With help of a "Gucki" i found out, that the usb-stick ist /dev/sda. Is there a option, that i can say the grml.squashfs is on /dev/sda? I have set the live-media-path=live. Or is there a initrd.gz with brltty, so that i have control over initramfs or the busybox. Regards Dietmar

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JFYI: short downtime of grml-mailinglists
by Michael Prokop 22 Feb '08

22 Feb '08

Hi, the grml mailinglists will experience a short downtime on this weekend, see the mail of our provider mur.at (timezone is CET): ,---- [ quoting NOC of mur.at ] | tomorrow, saturday, feb. 23. 2008, our fibre channel uplink to the ACO | net will be shut down between 9pm and 12pm due to construction work. our | second uplink should keep us online, though with considerably reduced | bandwidth. | | on sunday, feb. 24. 2008, we will perform a slightly delicate procedure | (software upgrades) for which we will have to temporarily shut down | mail- and web-services in the time between 6pm and 12pm. | | sorry for the inconvenience! `---- Thanks to mur.at for downtime announcment and thanks for hosting. JFYI && regards, -mika-

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grml on usb stick: can not get partition to start at cylinder 1
by Peter 22 Feb '08

22 Feb '08

Hi I try to get grml_small on a usb stick. thanks to mikas nice blog /http://michael-prokop.at/blog/2006/03/24/booten-vom-usb-stick-fdisk-vs-cfdisk/ I learned that the first partition has to start on cylinder 1. However, when using fdisk or cfdisk , I always get 63 as the value for Start (as Mika has pointed out, the output of fdisk differs from fdisk -l -u , the former showing the value 1 and the latter the value 63) In his blog Mika says: "As soon as I had adjusted the partition ..." But how did he adjust ? Thanks Peter

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debtorrent
by C.M. Brannon 21 Feb '08

21 Feb '08

I just grabbed the debtorrent package. Is anyone using it? I really like the idea of bittorrent as a distribution method for software packages, since those packages are gpg-signed. -- Chris

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console skype and voice chat
by josh 20 Feb '08

20 Feb '08

Hi, Are there console voice chat programs? like a console version of skype and things? Josh email: jkenn337(a)gmail.com skype: jkenn337 msn: kenn6498ku(a)hotmail.com

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installing grml with software speech
by josh 19 Feb '08

19 Feb '08

Hi, Can one install grml using software speech? or do you need hardware speech to run the grml to hard drive installation? Josh email: jkenn337(a)gmail.com skype: jkenn337 msn: kenn6498ku(a)hotmail.com

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which iso is the best to install grml 2 hd?
by marco.fisch＠n-ergie.de 19 Feb '08

19 Feb '08

Hi grml users, which iso is the best to get grml installed to harddisk? i've tried to install grml from live-cd-iso, but during the upgrade process there are a lot of broken packages or better said unreachable dependencies. thanks for ur help. regards Marco --------------------- Windows ist wie ein Lemming... ... es läuft planlos in der Gegend rum, um dann gezielt abzustürzen.

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/cdrom/scripts not working
by Jon 19 Feb '08

19 Feb '08

Hi mika, Perhaps related to the earlier bootparams issue, I get this after creating scripts/grml.sh on a usb memory stick and booting with the 'scripts' option: * grml script found on CD, executing /cdrom/scripts/*. config_cdrom_scripts:.:4: no such file or directory: /cdrom/scripts/* and the script doesn't execute. Not sure if this is deprecated or not, as you described /cdrom as the 'old directory layout' in issue414. Thanks again.

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bootparams not working
by Jon 18 Feb '08

18 Feb '08

Hi, I've got grml booting off a usb memory stick as per these instructions: http://wiki.grml.org/doku.php?id=usb I want to change the default boot options, so I added a bootparams/params text file at the root of the memory stick with 'toram ssh=foo nodhcp'. The file seems to be ignored though; it just boots normally with no options added. Could someone tell me what I'm missing?

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grml on laptops
by josh 18 Feb '08

18 Feb '08

Hi, Will grml run on laptops? particularly on the oqo laptop found at www.oqo.com ? Josh email: jkenn337(a)gmail.com skype: jkenn337 msn: kenn6498ku(a)hotmail.com

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direct-x equivalent
by josh 18 Feb '08

18 Feb '08

Hi, Is there any equivalent to direct-x in open-gl? Josh email: jkenn337(a)gmail.com skype: jkenn337 msn: kenn6498ku(a)hotmail.com

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lite-weight version of emacspeak
by josh 18 Feb '08

18 Feb '08

Hi, What is this liteweight version of emacspeak called again? Josh email: jkenn337(a)gmail.com skype: jkenn337 msn: kenn6498ku(a)hotmail.com

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grml and linksys wireless USB adapter
by josh 18 Feb '08

18 Feb '08

Hi, Does the linksys wireless USB adapter work with grml? This USB adapter is for receiving wireless signals put out by a wi--fi router. Also, does Emacspeak and IBM viavoice come with grml? What speech synthesizers come with the standard grml? Josh email: jkenn337(a)gmail.com skype: jkenn337 msn: kenn6498ku(a)hotmail.com

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Re: starting grml_medium with linld
by didi.segbert＠arcor.de 17 Feb '08

17 Feb '08

Hello Mika, thank your for your answer. If have add the live-medium-path= in the parameter-file for linld, but it did not work. I want to run grml_medium on an asus eeepc. The usb-stick boots to novell dos (c:). In the directory grml are the files linld077.com linld.par linux26 initrd.gz and grml.iso (the grml.squashfs file). I changes into the grml-direcotory cd grml and then i start linld as follows: linld097.com image=linux26 initrd=initrd.gz cl=linld.par The linld.par looks as follows: swspeak grml_dir=grml grml_name=grml.iso apm=power-off lang=de vga=normal quiet nomce blind brltty=vo,usb,text-german.tbl keyboard=de toram=grml.iso scandelay=30 live-media-path=grml boot=LIVE The last mesassege is something as waiting for rootfs but no sound and no braillterminal. Is the brltty package on the grml_mdeium? thanks for your help Regards Dietmar

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starting grml_medium with linld?
by didi.segbert＠arcor.de 14 Feb '08

14 Feb '08

Hello, i want to start the grml_medium with linld or loadlin. I have copied the grml.squashfs file the linux26 and the initrd.gz to an usb-stick and on in a direcotory named grml. The usb-stick boots to novel-dos 7.0 and after that i want to start the grml_medium with support for my brailledisplay and softwarespeak (blind brltty=vo,usb,text-german.tbl swspeak). How must i set the options for grml in an parameter-file for loadlin or linld? Thanks for your help. Regards Dietmar

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Re: [Grml] Missing fat32 partition
by Maurice McCarthy 12 Feb '08

12 Feb '08

Many of the things you ask about have been discussed in this mailing list. You can download the whole list archive with wget http://lists.mur.at/pipermail/grml.mbox/grml.mbox Thunderbird or Seamonkey on Windows should be able to import or open this so that you can search it. Good Luck! Moss > Thanks, I'll check all those things out. > At the moment it is even more confusing, as I'm a blind user and I have to > learn, not only linux, but also how to work with speech in linux. > At the moment I haven't goten gnome to run even; the startx command does > nothing, but I guess that is another topic...

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X-server start wothout fluxbox/grml-medium
by Lars Schimmer 11 Feb '08

11 Feb '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi! Snapped grml-medium 0.1rc today and installed onto a HD. Fine solution, works fine with all needed stuff and without the unneeded parts. But I want to start the Xserver and just display a picture, I don't want to start fluxbox. If I type "startx" it starts fluxbox, even with a ssh login and /usr/bin/xinit and /usr/bin/X it starts fluxbox. Where do I have to look to disable fluxbox and all parts? And: has anyone a xv replacement for displaying a picture in background on pure X server (with hiding mousepointer)? MfG, Lars Schimmer - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------- TU Graz, Institut für ComputerGraphik & WissensVisualisierung Tel: +43 316 873-5405 E-Mail: l.schimmer(a)cgv.tugraz.at Fax: +43 316 873-5402 PGP-Key-ID: 0x4A9B1723 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHnf8/mWhuE0qbFyMRAhKoAJ9irQMiycsjA+05n/foOs6XE7mGRQCfdDfz G6cm24UtQGpIwxjSlRA6ByA= =kH4v -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Grml] Missing fat32 partition
by Maurice McCarthy 11 Feb '08

11 Feb '08

Hi Willem, As long as you are managing OK that is fine. I'm an amateur myself and not part of the grml team as such. Just learning as I go along. Mika spends a lot of time answering folk and I like to help when I can - just as Mika and the whole team have helped me. Look for documentation in /usr/share/doc to help you, e.g. with the Midnight Commander mc /usr/share/doc which is considered to be good way for a novice to look around the system. The man pages have lots of good info but are horrendous for a new user. man ntfsprogs # or ... man ntfsclone are quite good however. And please, please have a look at dd, the testdisk program, also /usr/share/doc/ddrescue and its related shell script dd_rhelp (I think) if you are planning to use 2 operating systems. They give you the means to rescue and back-up your system by using the grml installation disk. The X-window program gparted is the equivalent of partition magic in the linux world. (The console program upon which it is based is caleld parted but it will take you longer to learn to use it. gparted also uses the ntfsprogs behind the scenes.) BUT ... the X protocol is clear text and therefore it is discouraged to use X for sysadmin work - it introduces a security vulnerability. I'm at Birmingham Airport Uk just now. On my way to work in the North Sea so I'll not be able to contribute for a couple of weeks. Best Wishes Moss > Hi Maurice > I did not see your messages until I already started creating a new fat32 > disk in windows with partition magic, as you can probably guess, I'm much > more comfortable with windows at the moment. >

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grml-x in rc1
by martin yazdzik 11 Feb '08

11 Feb '08

Dear M and friends, I tried today to play with the rc1 Following issues: 1. in attempting to su to grml to run grml-x, get "cannot find file grml" error 2. if I run grml-x as root, all seems to be well, but then the error "priority is -1 instead of requested -0" then nothing 3. if I change to bash, and run grml-x as grml, all seems to be well, I get the note creating x-authority, then the errno111 no reply from xserver In other words, in grml 0.9, then grml 1.0, x was easy, grml-x -module radeon fluxbox, and x appeared within seconds. In the current release candidate, I am convinced that either I am stupid, or there is a problem with grml-x, or both. Best, Martin

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Missing fat32 partition
by Willem 11 Feb '08

11 Feb '08

I've just installed grml with the help of a friend. I also boot windows on the same pc. I have a fat32 partition that used to show up in my computer in windows before I installed grml. What do I need to do to make the drive show again? Willem.

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grub
by martin yazdzik 10 Feb '08

10 Feb '08

Dear Mika and friends, So, now that I have foobarred and repaired grub a few times, has anyone here experience with upgrading to grub2? (shoots self in foot) Best, M

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z shell question
by martin yazdzik 10 Feb '08

10 Feb '08

/home/yazdzik/.zshrc:[:237: too many arguments /home/yazdzik/.zshrc:[:977: too many arguments yazdzik@grml1 ~ % Dear Mika and friends, Since you are all z shell to the core(okay, really bad pun) why do I argue so much? Also, the latest grub update is disastrous, as it eats the menu.lst for breakfast, leaving an unbootable system, but I suspect you know this. What would be cool is a way to get grub back, as the population of devices by udev in lilo is a process best measured in years. Is there a way to do this with the live cd which respects the uuid? Best to all of you, Martin "If the path be beautiful, let us not ask where it leads." -France

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Error : C preprocessor "lib/cpp" fails sanity check when compiling Bacula 2.2.8 on grml 1.1 rc
by Peter 01 Feb '08

01 Feb '08

Hi Does anybody knows what that means ? I made sure that I have build-essentials, linux-headers , gcc-4.2 , but all this has already been on the dist. I found many, many posts concerning this error on Google, but I just can not figure out what it means in my context Thanks for your help Peter

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add-on to my last post - Error : C preprocessor "lib/cpp" fails sanity check when compiling Bacula 2.2.8 on grml 1.1 rc
by Peter 31 Jan '08

31 Jan '08

Sorry, I forgot to add, that the bacula package I am talking about is the direct download from bacula.org (current release 2.2.8) ---------------------------------------- Hi Does anybody knows what that means ? I made sure that I have build-essentials, linux-headers , gcc-4.2 , but all this has already been on the dist. I found many, many posts concerning this error on Google, but I just can not figure out what it means in my context Thanks for your help Peter

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GRML netboot packages for 0.1 x64
by Laurent CARON 31 Jan '08

31 Jan '08

Hi, Do anyone know if the netboot packages are availables for x64 grml ? I'd like to be able to boot it from the net as I'm currently doing for x32 ones . Thanks Laurent

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Problem installing Gnome and Orca on GRML
by Jerry Matheny 30 Jan '08

30 Jan '08

I've tried apt-get update && apt-get install gnome-orca on the latest grml 1.1, and it comes to packages with bug reports and saying it needs to install those versions, and I try that and it eventually dies. I forget the error, but anyone have any ideas if there's a different way to go about this? Thanks in advance, Jerry

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grml 1.1 does not recognize vmware disks anymore
by Peter 30 Jan '08

30 Jan '08

Hi I was just trying to install the new 1.1 release grml 1.1 rc iso inside VMware workstation 6. I have already done this successfully with grml 1.0. However, when I do : # fisk /dev/sda I get : Error: Unable to open /dev/sda : Unrecognized disk label This did not happen in grml 1.0 where I was able to create a partition with fdisk on /dev/sda Any ideas ? Thanks Peter

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Problem with swspeak in GRML 1.1rc1
by Jerry Matheny 29 Jan '08

29 Jan '08

I did a grml2hd with the new GRML 1.1rc1 version and it doesn't work, and to top it off the sound is all crackily very bad to the point where I can't even understand what the speech is saying. But it's acting like something pertaining to speakup isn't being loaded properly, and something gets messed with sound in the grml2hd script. Not sure what the deal is, any help would be very much appreciated. And the Speakup spelling everything is kinda annoying too. lol, but I understand that's a Kernel issue. Thanks in advance, Jerry

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a couple of questions, please.
by Doug Smith 29 Jan '08

29 Jan '08

Ok, I have a few questions here I want answers for. I have been using the new release candidate for GRML and I really like it. I just have a couple of problems I wish to know if anyone else has had with this version, and I would like to know something about the apt-get install grml process. First of all, has anyone had this problem with the installation of packages? I ask the system to add on some packages, primarily some languages I want to use in programming. This is what happens. The first time, right after you install the system to the hard disc from a cd you get this: wajig installrs bwbasic There is only one package to go and get, and everything works exactly like it should. Fine and well, but not really the problem. Now, when you go to install even more, you get this: wajig installrs gobjc This time, we need lots of c libraries and the search is on. The process of acquiring the deb files is perfect, but, after the programs says that it has fetched so many bytes of archives in so many seconds, and asks if you want to continue, the thing just stops. You tell it you do with the y and there is just a blank line at the bottom of the screen. No matter how many times you hit the return key after entering the y, you are just hung there, blocked forever in a failed function call until you control-c your way out and have to manually call dpkg to install the files you know you have. Now, there is no way that I can see to fix this. I have done everything from reinstalls of dpkg, debconf, apt, wajig and apt itself. This does nothing for the problem. I have even had the system reconfigure everything it has in order to make sure that all the programs know that everything is there. Now, I have another problem. What is wrong with cdtool? Each time I try to play a cd, I get this: cdplay: can't play no disc This is not true, as I have just inserted a professionally produced cd into the drive before doing this. Why will cdplay not play? Why will wajig installrs package-name not actually install the recommended and suggested packages? Now, I need to know about the wajig installrs grml or apt-get install grml, whichever you wish to call it. If you do this, for instance from the 1.0 nstable version, why do you not get the new kernel, the new speakup, the new configuration files and more that the new version has in it? It seems that then entire thing would be upgraded and you would just need to reboot in order to get it all. What actually happens here? I am sorry to just keep writing in with problems. As I stated some time ago, I intend to stay with grml. It is a very good distro, and, thanks for the speech. If anyone could tell me how to fix these problems, and about the upgrade process, I would be glad to learn more. I can also read the upgrading page on the wiki. Thanks. Doug Smith. -- I use grml (http://grml.org/)

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Re: Grml Digest, Vol 33, Issue 7
by Kevin Jones 23 Jan '08

23 Jan '08

Hello, Has anyone experimented with grml in colinux? I would think that would be a great idea like grml2hd but in colinux colinux.org grml-request(a)mur.at wrote: > Send Grml mailing list submissions to > grml(a)mur.at > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.mur.at/mailman/listinfo/grml > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > grml-request(a)mur.at > > You can reach the person managing the list at > grml-owner(a)mur.at > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Grml digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: RC 1.1 troubles (ignore last post) (C.M. Brannon) > 2. Re: RC 1.1 troubles (ignore last post) (Michael Prokop) > 3. Re: Hi again - here's some more stuff for you... :-) (Andy Elvey) > 4. Re: RC 1.1 troubles (ignore last post) (C.M. Brannon) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 14:27:26 -0600 > From: cmbrannon(a)cox.net (C.M. Brannon) > Subject: Re: [Grml] RC 1.1 troubles (ignore last post) > To: grml(a)mur.at > Message-ID: <87ir25nzyp.fsf(a)cox.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Michael Prokop <mika(a)grml.org> writes: > >> Are you sure the ISO on your CD is *really* OK? Any chance to test >> it on another system to check whether it basically works at all? > > Well, all of the MD5 digests were verified. I even did > md5sum -c /mnt/cdrom/grml/md5sums > and all files were OK. > I tried it on another machine, and it wouldn't boot. So it seems that > my disk must be defective, even though the contents of the filesystem > are OK according to md5sum. I can think of several culprits. For > one, I use cheap generic CD-R media. I'll try this process again, > with some higher-quality disks. > > Have a great day, > -- Chris > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 21:47:25 +0100 > From: Michael Prokop <mika(a)grml.org> > Subject: Re: [Grml] RC 1.1 troubles (ignore last post) > To: grml(a)mur.at > Message-ID: <2008-01-07T21-39-48(a)devnull.michael-prokop.at> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > * C.M. Brannon <cmbrannon(a)cox.net> [20080107 21:31]: >> Michael Prokop <mika(a)grml.org> writes: > >>> Are you sure the ISO on your CD is *really* OK? Any chance to test >>> it on another system to check whether it basically works at all? > >> Well, all of the MD5 digests were verified. I even did >> md5sum -c /mnt/cdrom/grml/md5sums >> and all files were OK. >> I tried it on another machine, and it wouldn't boot. So it seems that >> my disk must be defective, even though the contents of the filesystem >> are OK according to md5sum. I can think of several culprits. For >> one, I use cheap generic CD-R media. I'll try this process again, >> with some higher-quality disks. > > Use readcd (something like "readcd -c2scan dev=/dev/cdrom") for > checking the CD. md5sums sadly just aren't enough. :(( > > I strongly recommend the use of USB pens instead of CD-Rs if > possible, otherwise fall back to higher quality CDs which are known > to work fine with your CD burner. That's what we as grml developers > do as well. :) > > regards, > -mika-

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RC 1.1 troubles (ignore last post)
by cmbrannon＠cox.net 08 Jan '08

08 Jan '08

Hi all, Sorry for that last post. I accidentally sent it before it was complete! Anyway, I burned the 1.1 RC1 ISO to a blank medium with cdrecord -data dev=/dev/hdc grml_1.1-rc1.iso The MD5 checksum on the ISO is correct, and the recording process finished successfully. I can mount the CD-ROM, and all the requisite files are present. I booted the system, with the command-line grml swspeak But instead of booting the CD, I was presented with my hard-disk installation of grml. It was as though I did not have a bootable disk in the drive. So I found my grml 1.0 medium, and rebooted. That time, I booted into the live CD, as expected. I tried burning the 1.1 RC1 ISO to a second medium, just in case the first was damaged. That didn't work. It seems unusual that the 1.1 RC1 disk won't boot, while the 1.0 CD will boot. I'm running without a monitor, so the boot sequence isn't visible. I should probably ask someone to connect a monitor and read the boot sequence to me, but that's a big hastle. Am I missing something here? Is anyone else booting the 1.1 RC1 live CD with speech? -- Chris

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Re: Hi again - here's some more stuff for you... :-)
by Andy Elvey 07 Jan '08

07 Jan '08

( snip ) > We don't use the resolutions by default since a long time but leave > the decision to the X server because this usually works better than > the other way around. If someone wants to force usage of a special > resolution just provide it on the grml-x commandline or activate the > (by defaut) deactivated Modelines in xorg.conf. > > Thanks for assisting, Michael. Does anyone of you care to send a > short summary back to the mailinglist so that people have the chance > to find the solution for the problem in the archive? > > regards, > -mika- > Sure! Here you go. This isn't actually very short, but it's thorough.... :-) To recap - My problem was that I was getting a "bouncing window" ( which said "Attention: Input not supported" ) going around the screen when I went into X. I have an AOC LCD monitor (model AOC LM925 ). Here's the URL for the manual ( very kindly given to me by Michael Schierl ) - http://www.aocmonitor-anz.com/support/manuals/LM925usermanual8ms.pdf I use Linux Mint 4 as my default distro. My Linux Mint monitor settings are - 1280x1024 H: 64kHz V: 60Hz Analog input My grml settings were - 1024x768 H: 48kHz V: 60 Hz Analog input The above settings correspond to SXGA for Linux Mint, and XGA for grml. I found that out from the table at the end of the monitor documentation. The first thing that got rid of the window was that I went into Linux Mint and got a copy of my xorg.conf file. I copied that onto a USB key. Went back into grml, made a backup copy of the grml xorg.conf, and then (as su) copied my Linux Mint file into /etc/X11/xorg.conf. ( The bouncy window was still around while I did this ). Went out of X to the command-line. Went back into X and the bouncing window had gone. The second thing that worked was that I went back into grml ( this was a new session - I didn't save my xorg.conf settings ). I ran this suggested command to start X - grml-x -mode 1280x1024 -hsync 64 -vsync 60 fluxbox It worked perfectly - No bouncing window appeared. Bye for now - - Andy

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Re: [Grml] 1.1 rc1 - a small problem with "bouncing window"...
by Michael Schierl 02 Jan '08

02 Jan '08

[adding cc to mailing list again] Andy Elvey wrote: > The window appears just before X starts. You're > correct in that the mouse pointer moves "below" the window. The monitor > is an "AOC LM925" - AOC is the manufacturer. It is a VGA one. Okay. After figuring out that "AOC Monitor Australia/New Zealand" sells different monitors than "AOC Europe", it was easy to get to the manual: http://www.aocmonitor-anz.com/support/manuals/LM925usermanual8ms.pdf Okay. Now boot your Linux that works. Then press the rightmost button on your monitor (MENU) to get into the OSD menu (if this does not work, someone locked the OSD menu. Read page 8 of the manual - OSD Lock function - on how to unlock it). Use Left and Right (the keys left and right from the power button) to move to the "Information" icon (that looks like a "i" in a circle) and press MENU again. It will show screen resolution and horizontal and vertical refresh rate (i.e. three values). Exit from the OSD with the EXIT button (leftmost button). Post them here :) If you want, you can repeat this inside GRML. Page 18 of the manual lists "suggested refresh rates", but it does not list all supported ones. For 1280x1024 it suggests 60Hz or 75Hz. > < rant directed at the bouncy window's designer - not directed at you or > grml... > Drop your rant here: http://www.aocmonitor-anz.com/contact.php :) > Very poorly-thought-out by the bios people or whoever..... </rant> It's not the BIOS. In fact, it is not inside your PC at all. VGA signals are designed for CRT monitors. So, your LCD panel needs a microcontroller chip that converts the signal so that it can be used on the LCD. That microcontroller will display OSD error messages on the screen - they are *not* present in the signal that goes from PC to monitor. Buy a monitor from a different manufacturer next time *g*. (By the way, it sounds a bit silly that the RAMDAC chip on your graphics card converts the image in the frame buffer to analog signals and your LCD panel convert them back to digital. But that is how it works if you use a VGA connector). Michael

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1.1 rc1 - a small problem with "bouncing window"...
by Andy Elvey 01 Jan '08

01 Jan '08

Hi all - I'm a first-timer here - just tried grml for the first time, and very impressed! Well done to the devs! :-) ( A bit of background - I'm an intermediate (pushing "advanced")-level user - my PC's been Linux-only for about 4 years or so now. ) I only have one small problem. When I'm running the live-CD, I get an annoying window with a blue border bouncing around the screen - the message in it says "Attention: Input not supported". I can run apps fine, the display is perfectly normal except for that window. Arrgh.... I should say that I have an "AOC" brand LCD screen and it runs fine (except for that window). Absolutely everything works perfectly except for that one small thing, so has anyone come across that before (and have a way of getting rid of it?). Maybe a boot-option or something..... ? Very many thanks in advance, and again - well done to the devs for a great distro! Bye for now - - Andy

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1.1 RC 1 won't boot, but 1.0 will
by cmbrannon＠cox.net 01 Jan '08

01 Jan '08

Hi all, I just downloaded the ISO of 1.1 RC1. I burned it to a blank medium using cdrecord -data dev=/dev/hdc grml_1.1-rc1.iso

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problem installing packages.
by Doug Smith 31 Dez '07

31 Dez '07

Ok, I have a little problem with installing packages on here. I don't know why packages won't install, but the install process just hangs after the packages are downloaded. I wanted, for example, to install gcj on here, but the packages were downloaded, and the process just hung indefinitely. What's the problem and how can I fix it. I like the new release candidate. I have never had this good service from speakup, but you eliminated almost all that stupid spelling. It does jump into it occasionally, but it is not nearly as much as it has been before. The rest of the diestro looks great. All my command line favs are here and in their latest versions. This is good. I just need to know what to do about that failure to install packages. Thank you. -- I use grml (http://grml.org/)

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grml release candidates: grml 1.1-rc1, grml64 0.2-rc1, grml[64]-medium 0.1-rc1
by Michael Prokop 28 Dez '07

28 Dez '07

Hi! I'm proud to be able to present new grml release candidates. New features? For sure! Including a new grml flavour known as grml-medium. grml 1.1-rc1 - Codename Skunk: http://grml.org/changelogs/README-grml-1.1-rc1/ grml64 0.2-rc1 - Codename Schwammerlklauber: http://grml.org/changelogs/README-grml64-0.2-rc1/ grml-medium 0.1-rc1 and grml64-medium 0.1-rc1 - Codename Pfuh: http://grml.org/changelogs/README-grml-medium-0.1-rc1/ http://grml.org/changelogs/README-grml64-medium-0.1-rc1/ Please consider using bittorrent for downloading the ISOs: http://grml.deb.at/devel/grml_1.1-rc1.iso.torrent http://grml.deb.at/devel/grml64_0.2-rc1.iso.torrent http://grml.deb.at/devel/grml-medium_0.1-rc1.iso.torrent http://grml.deb.at/devel/grml64-medium_0.1-rc1.iso.torrent If you can't use bittorrent then check out the devel/ directory of the HTTP/FTP mirrors listed at: http://grml.org/download/ Known issues can be found at: http://wiki.grml.org/doku.php?id=release_candidate Please report any bug you notice so we can provide stable releases soon! http://grml.org/bugs/ Enjoy grml! regards, -mika- -- http://grml.org/ # Linux for texttool-users and sysadmins http://wiki.grml.org/ # share your knowledge http://grml.supersized.org/ # the grml development weblog #grml @ irc.freenode.org # meet us on irc

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Text based bootsplash -- switch to after install?
by John Magolske 20 Dez '07

20 Dez '07

I just installed grml 1.0 to a hard drive, but forgot to invoke the "splash" boot option before running grml2hd. Is there a way to switch to the text based bootsplash after installation? Thanks, John -- John Magolske http://B79.net/contact

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Grml-live-remaster (boot problem - busybox)
by vadim.blajkun＠ubs.com 17 Dez '07

17 Dez '07

Hi All. I am quite new to the remastering the GRML live CD. I am trying to remaster the CD based on the grml-small linux 2.6.20 kernel following the procedure described in the "Remastering GRML" HOWTO http://wiki.grml.org/doku.php?id=remastering. Everything went Ok until I have tried to boot from the resulting ISO - it thrown me to the busybox. I have noticed that executing mksqushfs results in the GRML file which is about 0.5 MB smaller than the original GRML file, even though there were absolutely no changes to the original. If I do not run mksquashfs, bit simply recreate ISO using mkisofs, the resulting ISO image works fine. I looks that the problem is somewhere in mksquashfs. I use mksquashfs distributed with squashfs3.3.tgz via http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=63835 Could anyone help? Thanks. -- Vadim

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Installing GRML with Speech
by Jerry Matheny 07 Dez '07

07 Dez '07

Hello, I am a blind computer user, and am trying to install GRML on my laptop computer. My setup is as follows: I'm using the speakup_synth=ltlk boot parameter to start my external synthesizer, however I wish to also use a 2 gb swap partition that I have created just in case. How can I run grml2hd to do this? Also, how do I go about installing TTSynth to have software speech via Speakup afterwards? I have the deb image needed for TTSynth. I just need the library it needs to install. And also, what steps are needed to get Gnome and Orca running? Sorry to ask so many questions, but this is the best Linux distro that has detected all my hardware, and seems to work the best with the sound card, which is a must when you are a blind laptop Linux user. So any help I could get would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance, Jerry

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Having trouble installing packages with apt-get
by Jerry Matheny 07 Dez '07

07 Dez '07

How can I fix this problem? I try to install packages with apt-get and it wants to remove kernel-headers-grml. But I want to be able to install new packages. What is a good way to fix this? Thanks in advance, Jerry

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system time is too slow on a grml guest inside vmware server on a grml host
by Peter 07 Dez '07

07 Dez '07

Hi I have problems getting the time stable on a grml 1.0 guest running inside a vmware virtual machine on a grml 1.0 host. The host is synchronized via chrony and it works. The guest is getting behind the host system time very rapidly (approx 10 Mins in an hour) I tried various options: 1 with chrony and without vmware tools time sync 2 the inverse 3 some hacks include: kern.hz=100 in lilo.conf nothing works. I also have a grml 1.0 running as guest inside vmware workstation (the commercial product tp vmware server) on a Windows 2000 host (which has no time sync) . Here , the guest has no time sync with the host and uses chrony . Everything works in this case. Any ideas ? Thanks a lot Peter

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grml-live-remaster script (problem with mkisofs)
by Michael Schierl 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

Hello, I built a script that should enable you to remaster a grml from the live cd like this: - mount some swap (if you don't have unlimited RAM *g*) - mount a disk where the ISO should end up on - If you use grml-small, install mksquashfs and mkisofs - grml-live-remaster /path/to/remastered-grml.iso * it will build a new aufs based on /remaster/tmp and /remaster/cdrom (which are mounted first) * then it drops you into the chroot so you can "remaster" * then it will open the last two lines of boot.msg in $EDITOR so you can edit the start screen message * then it will create a new squashfs and iso image, and cleans up after itself. * but it will leave the boot.msg and /remaster/tmp intact, so if you do not like the result (for example because it is too large for your CD-R) you can just run it again and continue where you left. - reboot to Windows/whatever and burn the CD - have fun Unfortunately, the build CD does not boot and drops me into busybox. But I guess this is only a bug in the mkisofs line, since the filesystem layout looks fine for me. And it is quite time consuming to test it within grml-small and installing mksquashfs and mkisofs after every reboot. mika: can you look if you find the bug? and if you found it, can you include it into next grml? It is very useful to be able to remaster grml on virtually any PC without having to repartition anything first. mihi #!/bin/sh if [ x"$1" == x ]; then echo "usage: grml-live-remaster destination.iso" echo " destination.iso should point to a path that is on a hard disk," echo " you might want to mount some swap partitions or swap files" echo " first, because grml-live-remaster will need a lot ot RAM." exit -1 fi set -e if [ ! -d /remaster ]; then mkdir -p /remaster/chroot /remaster/tmp /remaster/cdrom mount -t tmpfs tmpfs /remaster/tmp echo "#:# edit the following two lines to change the boot message" \ >/remaster/msg echo "#:#" >>/remaster/msg sed 1,2d /live/image/boot/isolinux/boot.msg >>/remaster/msg fi mount -t squashfs /live/image/live/grml.squashfs /remaster/cdrom -o ro,loop mount -t aufs aufs /remaster/chroot -o br:/remaster/tmp=rw:/remaster/cdrom=rr for i in dev proc root sys tmp; do mount --bind /$i /remaster/chroot/$i done echo "Now edit the contents of the live CD in this chrooted shell:" chroot /remaster/chroot for i in dev proc root sys tmp; do umount /remaster/chroot/$i done $EDITOR /remaster/msg mkdir /remaster/iso for i in /live/image/*; do if [ ! $i == /live/image/live ]; then cp -R $i /remaster/iso fi done rm /remaster/iso/boot/isolinux/boot.msg sed 3,4d /live/image/boot/isolinux/boot.msg \ >/remaster/iso/boot/isolinux/boot.msg sed 1,2d /remaster/msg >>/remaster/iso/boot/isolinux/boot.msg mkdir /remaster/iso/live mksquashfs /remaster/chroot /remaster/iso/live/grml.squashfs umount /remaster/chroot /remaster/cdrom mkisofs -b boot/isolinux/isolinux.bin -no-emul-boot -c boot/isolinux/boot.cat \ -boot-info-table -o "$1" /remaster/iso rm -R /remaster/iso echo "" echo "ISO generation complete:" ls --color -l "$1" echo "If you want to customize your ISO, just call grml-live-remaster again."

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alps touchpad rc1
by martin yazdzik 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

Dear Mika and friends, rc1 of 1.1 does everything just about perfectly - install is dead clean, and, as long as one knows what sources to use, one can have a complete desktop environment with all the bells and whistles pretty quickly. My Dell laptop, however, and most dell latitudes, which is a high percentage of business users' machines, uses the alps touchpad. Normally, the synaptics driver is loaded, no problem, but grml-x does not configure it, nor can I, even simply copying my current xorg.conf, get it to work. I: Bus=0011 Vendor=0002 Product=0008 Version=6337 N: Name="AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint" P: Phys=isa0060/serio1/input0 S: Sysfs=/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input2 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=mouse1 event2 ts1 B: EV=f B: KEY=420 0 70000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 B: REL=3 B: ABS=1000003 instead, the pointing stick thing works, but both should. I: Bus=0011 Vendor=0002 Product=0008 Version=0000 N: Name="PS/2 Mouse" P: Phys=isa0060/serio1/input1 S: Sysfs=/devices/virtual/input/input1 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=mouse0 event1 ts0 B: EV=7 B: KEY=70000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 B: REL=3 Both work in sidux, but I hate to have to reinstall it just to get the xorg.conf from it, if indeed, that is even the problem. same hwinfo from my working grml I: Bus=0011 Vendor=0002 Product=0008 Version=0000 N: Name="PS/2 Mouse" P: Phys=isa0060/serio1/input1 S: Sysfs=/class/input/input1 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=mouse0 event1 ts0 B: EV=7 B: KEY=70000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 B: REL=3 I: Bus=0011 Vendor=0002 Product=0008 Version=6337 N: Name="AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint" P: Phys=isa0060/serio1/input0 S: Sysfs=/class/input/input2 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=mouse1 event2 ts1 B: EV=f B: KEY=420 0 70000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 B: REL=3 B: ABS=1000003 What is up? Is this yet another udev does not like something issue? best, M "You don't subject minority rights to a referendum." Justice Minister Irwin Cotler of Canada

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Re: [Grml] Installing grml on a USB Flash Drive
by Mathew Brown 23 Nov '07

23 Nov '07

Hi Mika, So what you're saying is that it's on the to-do-list or that it's already been done? I've read about the save-config part, but that it's really what I was asking about (although it's very nifty). What I was interested in is booting up grml from my USB flash drive, having it write all changes to ramdisk (including any package installations and temporary files) and then telling grml to submit the changes to the USB drive if I want them to be persistent (such as package updates). Can this be done? Thanks for your help. > > > I know that you can install grml easily on a usb flash drive and was > > > wondering if grml has any special options for flash drives > > > installation, as, from my understanding, flash drives have a limited > > > number of write and erase cycles before failure. Does grml allow you > > > to write all hard disk changes to RAM (in a ramdisk) and then allow > > > you to either commit these changes when closing your session? Does > > > grml have any flash-friendly options? Thanks for your help. > > All write actions are redirected to the ramdisk by default, just > check out what's unionfs/aufs and how it's used if you are > interested in the details. If you search for persistent root > (configuration for example can be stored already using the config > framework: http://grml.org/config/): that's on our todo list. > > regards, > -mika- -- Mathew Brown mathewbrown(a)fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail...

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Installing grml on a USB Flash Drive
by Mathew Brown 22 Nov '07

22 Nov '07

Hi, I know that you can install grml easily on a usb flash drive and was wondering if grml has any special options for flash drives installation, as, from my understanding, flash drives have a limited number of write and erase cycles before failure. Does grml allow you to write all hard disk changes to RAM (in a ramdisk) and then allow you to either commit these changes when closing your session? Does grml have any flash-friendly options? Thanks for your help. -- Mathew Brown mathewbrown(a)fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again

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brltty
by mattias 18 Nov '07

18 Nov '07

Have the grm small brltty?

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Problem using apt-get in grml small : /usr/sbin/apt-listbug No such file or directory
by Peter 15 Nov '07

15 Nov '07

Hi I try to use apt-get form inside the grml small edition. No matter what I try to download, at the end of the process I get the message : /bin/sh: /usr/sbin/apt-listbugs : no such file or directory E: sub-process /usr/sbin/apt-listbugs apt || exit 10 returned an error code (10) ( apt-get update worked fine ) Thanks for your help. Peter

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grml-live, fai and package retreiving
by T o n g 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

Hi, I'm new to grml-live & fai. I don't understand why fai needs its own sources.list file. Since it will be really rarely for people to choose different mirrors from there preferred ones. Can we configure one less file (/etc/grml/fai/apt/sources.list), telling grml-live to use the official /etc/apt/sources.list by default instead? ,----- | To avoid downloading the base system again and again check out FAI's NFSROOT `----- This is another point that I don't understand the fai's philosophy. The "normal" Debian will cache the downloaded packages. Removing and installing a package again and again won't cause the very package to be downloaded again and again. Why fai behaves this way? Are the package downloaded by fai cached at the official place? Thanks, and for the excellent grml-live BTW. -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/

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grml-live and local configuration
by T o n g 11 Nov '07

11 Nov '07

Hi, I found that there is no way to specify a local configuration for grml-live. I.e., I have to mess with /etc/grml/grml-live.conf file in order to configure anything, or rely on the limited command line. I know the grml-live is still not a finished product yet. So I hope in the final release, there is way for people to have their local configuration files. The benefits: - people don't need to mess with the official /etc/grml/grml-live.conf file - no need to deal with it manually when grml-live package updates. - local configuration file will only hold settings different from the official file - people can have different configuration files - all /usr/share/grml-live/buildd/grml-live_autobuild_xxx.sh files can be combined to one shell script, with difference in the configuration file used only. This is much more maintainable. thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/

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grml repositories
by T o n g 11 Nov '07

11 Nov '07

Hi, Where's the write up on how to setup grml repositories? Being with grml for so long, I just realized that I can't find any write up on how to setup grml repositories. Here is my existing setting: $ grep grml-stable /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://deb.grml.org/ grml-stable main deb-src http://deb.grml.org/ grml-stable main but I can't find the newest grml-live: $ apt-cache search grml-live plz help. thx -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/

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grml-medium and X
by T o n g 11 Nov '07

11 Nov '07

Hi mika: On seeing that grml is providing a grml-medium edition, I checked it out immediately. However I found that grml-medium still does not including X. Mika, please please include X in grml-medium, and grml-x & firefox too. Otherwise, there is no much reason for people to prefer grml-medium, because it will be just grml_small plus some extra packages, which I see no obvious reason that I can't install them myself. thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/

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RE: grml repositories
by T o n g 10 Nov '07

10 Nov '07

> where are grml repositories? Silly me. Found right at: http://grml.org/files/ and http://deb.grml.org/ -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/

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grml-live, grml_small & REMOVE_DOCS
by T o n g 10 Nov '07

10 Nov '07

Hi, quick question: Is the control file for class REMOVE_DOCS released in grml-live v0.0.8? I found the class in /usr/share/grml-live/buildd/grml-live_autobuild_grml-small_sid.sh thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/

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Request for Kernel
by Josh Lawrence 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

Hello all, Last weekend I talked to some of the grml devs about building my own kernel with Ingo Molnar's rt-preempt patch, CONFIG_HZ=1000, and fully-preemptable kernel turned on. (Additionally I was hoping to use the linux-live scripts (www.linux-live.org), which require aufs + squashfs to be built into the kernel.) So far, I have failed. I would like to request that someone much smarter than me in the grml team do this and make it an available kernel in the grml repos. Or, if you could provide me some additional help (tutoring, perhaps) with building a kernel with these features in "the grml way", I would be happy to do the work and contribute back to the grml community. For context, my primary goal is to have a liveCD competely customized for me to use on gigs with the various groups I play with. For example, this liveCD would be very, very lean, would have all of my patches, synthesizers, etc. already programmed and ready, plus any scripts I might use, etc. Thank you, -- Josh Lawrence http://www.hardbop200.com

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back to file-rc
by martin yazdzik 06 Nov '07

06 Nov '07

Dear M and friends, In order to test out a version of hplip for a new set of peripherals, I had to remove file-rc, which I have back now. How do I make the system boot using runlevel.conf again, so I am back in control? Best, M

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Daily builds of grml available
by Michael Prokop 18 Okt '07

18 Okt '07

Hi! I'm proud to be able to announce the availability of daily snapshots of grml. This service is based on the grml-live framework (see http://grml.org/grml-live/ for details) and besides a new grml flavour we are currently working on (known as grml-medium) we also provide Debian/stable based grml-ISOs for the first time to the public. All the flavours are available in a 32bit version as well as a 64bit version, so you can choose from 12 different ISOs at total on a daily base. More details are available at: http://grml.supersized.org/archives/269-Daily-grml-snapshots.html The daily snapshots can be found at: http://daily.grml.org/ Enjoy grml! regards, -mika- -- http://grml.org/ # Linux for texttool-users and sysadmins http://wiki.grml.org/ # share your knowledge http://grml.supersized.org/ # the grml development weblog #grml @ irc.freenode.org # meet us on irc

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[Grml 1.0] cannot boot anymore after upgrade
by Ja Bu 03 Okt '07

03 Okt '07

Hi all, I am quite new to GRML (and Debian/Knoppix based distributions). However, I have some experience with other Linux distris. So recently I got a virtual appliance with Grml installed already. One of the first things was to use apt-get (first attempt) and aptitude (second attempt) to upgrade all upgradable packages. The results was the same: I could not boot anymore. The only thing that appears is 'GRUB' without any further error message. I have spent two days already to figure out what happens. I have seen reports about similar errors when updating ubuntu versions. The reason was a switch from hdX to sdX (and a mismatch of the UUIDs). I checked all that: UUIDs are fine. And even with the device names the symptoms are the same. I then tried to reinstall GRUB. The installation process yielded no errors (the menu.lst and the device map are fine). Nevertheless I get the same error :-( Then I thought: Maybe it's only a GRUB problem and tried LILO. With lilo I get some more information, but also the boot process stops very early. I get error messages about some modules that cannot be loaded. (I currently have no access and, thus, cannot type the exact error message here.) I am wondering whether this has something to do with the linux-kernel-header-grml package which apt-get/aptitude were keen to remove? I am also wondering: I surely am not the only one who ever upgraded a GRML 1.0 system, or? Did noone ever encountered a similar problem? I appreciate every hint which might bring me closer to a solution of this most annoying problem. Thanks in advance, Jan http://toolbar.Care2.com Make your computer carbon-neutral (free). http://www.Care2.com Green Living, Human Rights and more - 7 million members!

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Re: Re: [Grml] [Grml 1.0] cannot boot anymore after upgrade
by Ja Bu 03 Okt '07

03 Okt '07

Hi Mika, > > ---- > > Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold [...] > > ii udev 0.103-1grml2 /dev/ and hotplug management daemon > > You are sure, that this is the output of the affected grml2hd > installation? This would be interesting. :) I did a chroot /mnt/sda1 (where I had previously mounted the affected grml installation) and then entered the dpkg command that you have sent. So I assume that should be the correct output, shouldn it? Is there room for mistakes? > > Here is lilo.conf (which I currently use): [...] > > => the hard disk is really sda (the only existing partition is sda1) > > Ok, so just replace the: > append="grml_from_hd root=UUID=ffb575cc-c8df-4063-e0f8cb6aff03 " > with > append="grml_from_hd root=/dev/sda1" That worked! Thanks a lot!! > You can edit the commandline of grub interactive (just press 'e', > then edit the according line(s) and after pressing 'enter' to > activate the changes, finally boot the entry using 'b') as well. When booting the corrupt system I do not even see a menu. It is not possible to enter anything since as soon as 'GRUB' appears the system hangs. But that doesn't matter now since with LILO everything works fine. Thanks again. Best regards, Jan http://toolbar.Care2.com Make your computer carbon-neutral (free). http://www.Care2.com Green Living, Human Rights and more - 7 million members!

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Re: Re: [Grml] [Grml 1.0] cannot boot anymore after upgrade
by Ja Bu 03 Okt '07

03 Okt '07

Hi Mika, first of all, thank you very much for the fast reply. I guess you know how frustrating it can be to spend many hours on a problem and finally ending up with no idea how to go on. So I was very glad to find your reply in my inbox so soon :-) > The last 1-2 lines of the output would be interesting. Here are the error messages when booting with LILO: ---- [....] No root-on-loop configured, skipping Begin: Loading MD modules ... Failure: failed to load module linear. Failure: failed to load module multipath. Failure: failed to load module raid0. Failure: failed to load module raid1. [....] Success: loaded module raid456. [...] Failure: failed to load module raid10. Done. Warning: missing mdaadm.conf file, trying to create one... Segmentation fault Done. Begin: Waiting for root file system... ... ---- > Can you please provide the output of: > dpkg --list mdadm lvm2 initramfs-tools lilo grub udev > of the system? (Just boot grml live and chroot into your system) ---- Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name Version Description +++-===============-==============-============================================ ii grub 0.97-19 GRand Unified Bootloader ii initramfs-tools 0.85c tools for generating an initramfs ii lilo 22.6.1-9 LInux LOader - The Classic OS loader can loa ii lvm2 2.02.06-3 The Linux Logical Volume Manager ii mdadm 2.5.6-6 tool to administer Linux MD arrays (software ii udev 0.103-1grml2 /dev/ and hotplug management daemon ---- Here is lilo.conf (which I currently use): ---- lba32 prompt timeout=50 map=/boot/map vga=normal boot=/dev/sda image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-grml label="2.6.20-grml append="grml_from_hd root=UUID=ffb575cc-c8df-4063-e0f8cb6aff03 " read-only vga=0x0317 initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-grml ---- => I left out only the other sections and the bootscreen related lines => I tried also without boot screen => I checked that all the files mentioned above do really exist => the UUID is the correct one (checked with Ubuntu live CD) => the hard disk is really sda (the only existing partition is sda1) Here is the current menu.lst (after removal of comments etc): -> this one is the one with /dev/sdX: ---- default 0 timeout 10 title Debian GNU/LInux, kernel 2.6.20-grml root hd0,0 kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-grml root=/dev/sda1 ro vga=791 initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-grml savedefault ---- => as I said: I also found detailed descriptions how to install grub manually which I followed exactly (http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Installing-GRUB-natively) => the result was the same (only 'GRUB' being displayed before the system was hanging) -> this is the only change of the original menu.lst with the UUIDs: ---- [... same lines as above ...] kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-grml root=UUID=ffb575cc-c8df-4063--e0f8cb6aff03 ro vga=791 ---- In your third mail you wrote: > Just verified it on my own: root=UUID=... still/again does not work > with initramfs-tools. So just use root=/dev/... on your grub cmdline > in the meanwhile to boot your system, I'm debugging the problem.... I already did that in the case of grub (see modified menu.lst above). The result is the same. Or did I miss a step somewhere? After changing the menu.lst do I have to do any additional steps? (I think I reinstalled grub after that, but I am not sure.) By the way: I got the GRML virtual appliance from: http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/899 (I don't know whether the distributor modified the VMachine in the meantime.) Thanks again for your help. Hope you can guide me how to resolve that problem. Best regards, Jan http://toolbar.Care2.com Make your computer carbon-neutral (free). http://www.Care2.com Green Living, Human Rights and more - 7 million members!

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Error attempting to install grml-live
by Charles Hewson 02 Okt '07

02 Okt '07

Hi All, I am using ; deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib no n-free deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib no n-free in /etc/apt/sources.list as I am in Seattle. I get the following error when I try to install grml-live; Selecting previously deselected package squashfs-tools. (Reading database ... 126198 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking squashfs-tools (from .../squashfs-tools_1%3a3.2r2-8_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/squashfs-tools_1%3a3.2r2-8_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/mksquashfs.1.gz', which is also in package squashfs Selecting previously deselected package fai-client. Unpacking fai-client (from .../fai-client_3.2.1_all.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package fai-server. Unpacking fai-server (from .../fai-server_3.2.1_all.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package grml-live. Unpacking grml-live (from .../grml-live_0.0.2_all.deb) ... Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/squashfs-tools_1%3a3.2r2-8_i386.deb localepurge: Disk space freed in /usr/share/locale: 188K E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) apt-get install grml-live 15.62s user 7.19s system 3% cpu 10:38.00 total Thank, Charles ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/

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grml-live: build framework based on FAI for generating a Linux Live system
by Michael Prokop 20 Sep '07

20 Sep '07

Hi, I'm pleased to be able to officially announce grml-live. grml-live is a build framework based on FAI¹, which provides the infrastructure to create a grml and Debian based Linux Live-CD. One single command and if everything goes fine you'll have your own live-cd. :) grml-live should work on any Debian based distribution and as it uses /etc/grml/fai as main configuration directory it should not clash with any other FAI packages. The Debian package of grml-live is available via grml's pool: http://deb.grml.org/pool/main/g/grml-live/ grml-users (and everyone else using deb.grml.org inside sources.list) can get it via 'au ; agi grml-live'. :) Current sources are available from the mercurial repository: http://hg.grml.org/grml-live/ The documentation and some more details can be found at the grml-live webpage: http://grml.org/grml-live/ I appreciate any feedback, feature requests, bugreports and of course patches. :) ¹ http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ regards, -mika- -- http://grml.org/ # Linux for texttool-users and sysadmins http://wiki.grml.org/ # share your knowledge http://grml.supersized.org/ # the grml development weblog #grml @ irc.freenode.org # meet us on irc

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grml-small - raise ISO-size?
by Michael Prokop 20 Sep '07

20 Sep '07

Hi, I'm busy working on grml-live¹, a framework (based on FAI²) which provides the possbility to build a grml-ISO with 1(!) single command (oh and live-initramfs has been integrated into grml basically as well already). Creating your very own grml version is pretty easy now. http://grml.supersized.org/archives/263-grml-live-create-your-own-grml-ISO.… This framework might be the system behind grml 1.1, grml64 0.2 and grml-small 0.5 already and I think it's time to discuss the ISO-size limit of grml-small now. :) Some history: grml-small 0.1 started with 49MB total ISO-size, grml-small 0.2 had 56MB, grml-small 0.3 had 58MB and grml-small 0.4 has 60MB now. So it's definitely growing (due to the new features of kernel and userland in every single release). The main problem for the grml team so far was, to keep the ISO size of grml-small as small as possible but nevertheless provide all the software people wanted to see included. Another important drawback is the separate kernel version, which had to be maintained *additionally* to the main (non-small) grml-kernel. Using grml-live we are able to build grml-small with one single command now. The resulting ISO for grml-small has a size of 133MB currently - though the ISO still provides some more software than grml-small 0.4 did (like python, aptitude,...) and even a full featured /usr/share/doc (24MB) plus the current grml-kernel (2.6.22-grml). So the 133MB ISO could be stripped down a little bit further (maybe to something like 125MB) without losing toooo much. My suggestion therefore is to raise the ISO-size of grml-small to something like <=128MB (so it still fits on 128MB USB pens). Pros: * some more software could be included (and /usr/share/doc could be shipped as well maybe) * as maintainenance for the grml-team is much easier, we would provide up2date grml-small versions always together with a new release of (full) grml * use of same kernel version as with full grml -> installing additional Debian kernel packages not being available on the ISO yet (due to lack of space) is no problem furthermore Cons: * "grml toram" will last a little bit longer * 64MB USB pens as well as the really small CDs aren't support anymore (though I recommend to use fast >=1GB USB pens for booting anyway nowadays ;-)) As grml-live will be available to the public soon and everyone might build his own grml-version ;-), everyone could build his own grml-small version anyway. So what's *your* opinion about "grml-small grows to ~125MB"? I highly appreciate any feedback. ¹ http://grml.org/grml-live/ ² http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ regards, -mika- -- http://grml.org/ # Linux for texttool-users and sysadmins http://wiki.grml.org/ # share your knowledge http://grml.supersized.org/ # the grml development weblog #grml @ irc.freenode.org # meet us on irc

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Call for Testing: initramfs-tools
by Michael Prokop 05 Sep '07

05 Sep '07

Hi, Problem description =================== Some of you might know the problem with initramfs-tools >0.87b, quoting http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=431291 => ,---- [ #431291 ] | Booting with 'root=UUID=...' fails, it just hangs at "Waiting for | root file system..." and you can't boot your system anymore unless | you fall back to root=/dev/... syntax. `---- initramfs-tools version is 0.90a is available in Debian/unstable and 0.91 will be available soon. I'm asking you for help in testing the current version so we can ship it with grml as well. I can't reproduce the problem from #431291 on my own systems and therefore need your help. If we can't locate any bugs with initramfs-tools booting harddisk installations within the next few days I'll remove the old initramfs-tools version from grml's pool so new versions will reach the systems when upgrading them again. So please help us! How to test =========== Are you using an initrd? (Check the initrd line in /etc/lilo.conf when using lilo or /boot/grub/menu.lst when using grub.) If so please make sure you have a grml CD by hand so you can fix your system if it really does not boot anymore (hopefully that won't happen and falling back to root=/dev/... syntax in the bootloader should be possible anyway). ;) Which version of initramfs-tools are you using? Just for the record please save output before testing: # dpkg --list initramfs-tools # cat /proc/cmdline Make sure you have the old, working version available: # wget http://deb.grml.org/pool/main/i/initramfs-tools/initramfs-tools_0.87b_all.d… Now update initramfs-tools to 0.90a: # apt-get update ; apt-get install initramfs-tools/unstable Now a new /boot/initrd.* should be generated automatically for you. Does your system still boot without problems? What I need =========== Please let me know (no matter whether it works or not or if you tested it at all!): * do you have problems with booting your system? * what's inside your /proc/cmdline? * are you using SW-RAID? * are you using LVM? * which bootloader (lilo vs. grub) are you using? * which versions of initramfs-tools do work for you and which *not* (check via 'dpkg --list initramfs-tools') If you can't help in testing initramfs-tools (no matter why) please provide information of questions above anyway! It will help in any case as soon as you are using an initrd on your system! Problems with Booting? ====================== To get a working system again you just have to get the old version: # wget http://deb.grml.org/pool/main/i/initramfs-tools/initramfs-tools_0.87b_all.d… Install it running: # dpkg -i initramfs-tools_0.87b_all.deb If you manually want to re-generate the initrd/initramfs just invoke: # update-initramfs -c -t -k $(uname -r) Falling back to root=/dev/[sh]d* syntax instead of root=UUID=... should be possible as well. If you *really* can't boot anymore you'll find all available tools on a recent version of grml of course. I'm available for helping you as well, feel free to bug me if you don't know what to do. Debugging ========= See http://wiki.debian.org/InitramfsDebug for more information if you are interesting in debugging the problem on your own. Debian's maintainer of initramfs-tools provided help in debugging problems as well (thanks, maks!), and of course I'm available as well. If you have any questions or need further assistance please don't hesitate to contact me. You can reach me via mail, on IRC (#grml) or via jabber (mika(a)jabber.grml.org). Please help us! Thanks! regards, -mika- -- http://grml.org/ # Linux for texttool-users and sysadmins http://wiki.grml.org/ # share your knowledge http://grml.supersized.org/ # the grml development weblog #grml @ irc.freenode.org # meet us on irc

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RE: Emacspeak replacement?
by Jeff 02 Sep '07

02 Sep '07

Since emacspeak was removed in 1.0, is there an alternative that will work with similar functionality? Thank you, Jeff No, emacspeak had to be dropped from grml 1.0 (seehttp://grml.org/files/README-grml-1.0.php) because of it was justtoo big and did not work with current emacs versions, sorry.regards,-mika--- http://grml.org/ _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

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Using QEMU with grml
by - Tong - 01 Sep '07

01 Sep '07

Hi, I was on and off with QEMU in the past because it was slow. I knew there is a kernel accelerated QEMU but never made the attempt to try it, because I was stopped by the idea that I should compile/deal with the kernel modules. I never blame others for my own fault, but this time, mika, I think you are to blame for this. I mean, I didn't know that the accelerated QEMU works out of box in grml ever since grml v0.5 (http://www.grml.org/qemu/) -- you should be blamed for the fact that I don't know it. You made things so easy for us but never let us know. :-) Now I will give QEMU a serious try. mika, I think your wiki can use some more explanation on the following 2 points. - "To see if kqemu is enabled and working correctly, use the QEMU monitor command" -- please elaborate more about it, because 'info kqemu' didn't give me the desired info. Moreover, it'd be better to clearly tell uses in wiki how to do it. - I learned that "To run the emulated system, a good idea is to use overlay images. This way you can create hard disk image once and tell Qemu to store changes in external file. You get rid of all the instability, because it is so easy to revert to previous system state." (http://manual.sidux.com/en/hd-install-opts-en.htm#qemu) could you write something about this overlay image practice as well in your wiki please? That'll sure benefit grml users. Furthermore, in order to make it easier for grml users, I think it is better to start kqemu the standard way, not the hacking way. Please twist the following file and release it in the future of grml: /etc/init.d/kqemu #!/bin/sh case "$1" in start) echo "Starting kqemu: " /sbin/modprobe kqemu major=0 # load the kernel module mknod /dev/kqemu c 250 0 # create the device chmod 666 /dev/kqemu /dev/net/tun # adjust permissions ;; stop) echo "Stopping kqemu: " /sbin/rmmod kqemu ;; restart) /sbin/modprobe kqemu major=0 ;; *) ;; esac thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/

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RE: Emacspeak
by Jeff 01 Sep '07

01 Sep '07

I have low vision. In past versions of grml, I was able to use text to speech easily. I loaded 1.0 last weekend. I couldn't get the setting set correctly. I looked at the wiki but I was still unable to get it working. Does 1.0 only include and support speakup? Is emacspeak still available. Thank you for your assistance and the great distribution, Jeff _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

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[Grml] I'm back, and which file contains the default sound settings?
by Doug Smith 30 Aug '07

30 Aug '07

Ok, I have a real good one here. Which file contains the default settings which are used to bring up the sound system when the grml system starts? The reason I am asking this, is, that, this machine has an internal microphone in it, and, when you run swspeak, the thing comes on along with the speakers, resulting in an absolutely aweful, ear-splitting shriek. Well, it also causes another funny side effect. When this happens, I am, then, not able to manipulate the settings of the sound system to set it right. It takes me several tries to get into my system, and it absolutely freaks the people on my hall out, including my roommate. Well, if I can find this file, I can set it up such that the mic does not come on when the speakers do. Thanks for the info. -- Doug Smith: C.S.F.C. Computer Scientist For CHRIST

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Wishlist item: yeahconsole
by Marcus Blumhagen 29 Aug '07

29 Aug '07

Hello, first of all I'd like to thank the devs for providing one of the best, if not *the* best, linux live system I have come across to date. I like the very good default configurations for the applicatins I have used so far. Especially I like how you made GNU/screen and zsh shine. I had to adapt those configs for my Debian box, since the usability is greatly improved. Also it was the first time I have ever used zsh and thanks to your work I now have a shell on steroids :). I use it as my default login shell on any system I can get it. I can never live without it anymore. You've got it alright when saying: "zsh rocks." :) But I am missing a tiny application, which for me greatly improves my experience of using the X environment. It is called 'yeahconsole' [1], a drop down terminal emulator which is capable of embedding an xterm or an urxvt. By using it together with GNU/screen I could reduce the number of open urxvt windows to just one. And there is no need to retag the x-terminal window (or make it sticky) just because one wants one GNU/screen session on all workspaces. By default one can toggle its visibility by the shortcut CTRL-MOD-Y and it is reachable from every virtual dektop or workspace. It is of course very customisable through Xresources and has a full screen mode too (MOD-F11 by default), so one is able to get a nice fullscreen high resoultion terminal under X even beyound the limitations of the textmode console. And last but not least its installed size is <100KB. Or maybe there is something similar already in grml? I have checked [2] but there seems to be nothing. I have search that list for kuake, yeahconsole, tilda and yakuake since those are the alternatives I know about on a Debian system. But in the lack of more fantasy what to search apt-cache for, I might have missed one. [1] http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/yeahconsole [2] http://grml.org/files/release-1.0/dpkg_list Again, thanks a lot for grml and kind regards -- Marcus Blumhagen "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction." -- Albert Einstein

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virtualize Grml
by henry atting 28 Aug '07

28 Aug '07

Hi all, is it possible to install grml to a virtual machine with VirtualBox? I tried so, that means I created a virtual image, booted the grml iso image under VirtualBox, then typed grml2hd on a console but got the error message: No hard disk found I created some images already in a similiar way (debian, ubuntu) but obviously somethings missing this time ... Regards, henry -- http://www.literaturlatenight.de

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Virtualize Grml
by henry atting 28 Aug '07

28 Aug '07

Hi all, is it possible to install grml to a virtual machine with VirtualBox? I tried so, that means I created a virtual image, booted the grml iso image under VirtualBox, then typed grml2hd on a console but got the error message: No hard disk found I created some images already in a similiar way (debian, ubuntu) but obviously somethings missing this time ... Regards, henry -- http://www.literaturlatenight.de

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VirtualBox and Grml
by - Tong - 27 Aug '07

27 Aug '07

Hi, I remember while browsing planet.grml.org the other day, I saw one grml developer (mika, was it you?) highly praised the VirtualBox, stating that it is even faster than VMware. This get me very excited. Can someone give me some 101 introduction to VirtualBox, because I found most VirtualBox articles are for Ubuntu. Moreover, seems VirtualBox need to be compiled from source [1]. Can we have a VirtualBox package in grml? Also "before installing VirtualBox, your Linux OS has to satisfy some software requirements: in particular, you will need libxalan-c, libxerces-s and version 5 of libstdc++. Unfortunately, these packages are found under different names in the repositories of various Linux distributions so installing them will most likely cause problems" [2]. Can we straight things up in grml as well? thanks [1] http://www.go2linux.org/node/54 [2] http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/linux/VirtualBox-Review-47550.shtml -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/

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grml2hd - Grml Hd Installation
by - Tong - 27 Aug '07

27 Aug '07

Hi, I used to use grml2hd after booting off grml, but today I tried the grml2hd from the chroot. I think nobody has ever done this before. I'm just trying to see if I can get it working. If so, I could do the Grml HD installation then system customization from within my current system, so that I could have almost zero down time. Here are some issues/questions regarding grml2hd. - I think the document (http://grml.org/grml2hd/grml2hd.html) is not up-to-date with the script. E.g., I didn't find the switch "--noninteractive" documented. - I saw that the script is trying to duplicate the whole /dev directory. Is this still necessary? -- this is not a question but a request for explanation, because I thought udev would take care of populating the /dev directory on the fly. - now to the issue of using grml2hd from the chroot itself. It didn't work for me. It almost failed to copy over anything: cp: cannot stat `backups': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `boot': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `cdrom': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `dev': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `etc': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `floppy': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `home': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `initrd': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `lib': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `media': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `mnt': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `none': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `opt': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `root': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `sbin': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `selinux': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `swap': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `usr': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `var': No such file or directory UTSL reveals that it might cause by the 1st line, "cd /UNIONFS", in the copy_files function. Can we do something about it? I mean do something to make it chroot friendly? Further, my currently grml was first grml2hd'ed from grml ver0.7, and there is no /UNIONFS mount point or directory in my current system. I guess I can't use grml2hd to dupe my currently grml to another HD as well, can I? thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/

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Number of partitions for sata limitation lifted?
by - Tong - 26 Aug '07

26 Aug '07

Hi, A while back, I discussed the problem why Linux can only see 15 partitions on my sata HD. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.grml.user/844/focus=847 Just now I saw there's a guy saikee puts 145 operating systems on 145 partitions. So I'm wondering if the limitation for the number of partitions for sata HD has been lifted or not in grml, or it is only justlinux that allows doing so. thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/

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tomcat5.5 server on grml1.0 hd install?
by Lars Schimmer 24 Aug '07

24 Aug '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi! Another "silly" question: Has anyone installed tomcat5.5 on a grml HD install? I installed sun-java-sdk 6 and updated java alternatives. Afterwars I installed tomcat5.5 (-admin, -webapps). But instead of a running tomcat5.5 (like it is told in the man/Readme.DEBIAN), tomcat won't start at all and logfiles are empty :-/ MfG, Lars Schimmer - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------- TU Graz, Institut für ComputerGraphik & WissensVisualisierung Tel: +43 316 873-5405 E-Mail: l.schimmer(a)cgv.tugraz.at Fax: +43 316 873-5402 PGP-Key-ID: 0x4A9B1723 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGzqDwmWhuE0qbFyMRAiC/AJ9adt95iVsVC/X8I5ejVD4PIgpS1QCfS3se mqaSoPCv5IXca8D71V8MfBw= =pFKb -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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xorg does not have extension for dpms option
by - Tong - 23 Aug '07

23 Aug '07

Hi, My newly installed xorg doesn't support dpms any more: $ xset dpms force off server does not have extension for dpms option xset: unknown option force Which package should I install to get back the functionality? thanks PS my xorg: xserver-xorg: Installed: 1:7.1.0-16 -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/

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Re: [Grml] Why does the speech system like to spell instead of readwords?
by Martin McCormick 22 Aug '07

22 Aug '07

Michael Prokop writes: > No, that's not an option (due to maintenance and space reasons) for > us, sorry. Especially as speakup (which provides the speech feature) > does not work any longer with kernels >=2.6.22. Let's see what > future will bring us. I certainly understand. I did subscribe to the announcement list in case either a different speech engine is used or there is some other way that software speech becomes an option again in grml. In the mean time, it looks like the last Oralux disk works properly on the laptop in question but I sure would have rather used a Debian-based distribution since all my other Linux systems are pure Debian. Thank you. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group

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Problems booting GRML via fromhd
by Philipp Richter 22 Aug '07

22 Aug '07

Hi, We use GRML as rescue system on our machines. The /boot partition (which sits on a software raid1) of the main system includes the GRML-Kernel, initrd and squashfs so in case someone unintentionally removes libc6 or does some other bad things it's possible to recover the machine via the grml boot option in grub. the good thing is that this works if the /boot partition is on ide devices because the ide drivers are compiled into the kernel and the raid code in the kernel autostarts the raid. the bad thing: it doesn't work with our new dell boxes with mpt fusion controllers. the second problem here is that these boxes don't have ps/2 keyboard connectors and grml doesn't recognise the usb keyboard when it puts me into the rescue shell ... argh. here is what i did to fix these problems: - when grml loads the usb kernel modules it also tries to insmod usbhid.ko but this one has unknown symbols because ff-memless.ko has to be loaded first. so i copied ff-memless.ko to the initrd and added it to the list of usb.modules. cool. now i have a keyboard. - the next thing was that the sysfs-scsi-detection code did not find my fusion mpt controller. after reading /modules/scsi/scsi-modules.txt i knew why: because it was missing from there. after adding the entries for it i ended with a correctly detected controller but without a raid. how is the scsi-modules.txt file created? by hand? maybe it would be better to generate it from /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/modules.{dep,pcimap} because in these files the mpt drivers where referenced ... - ok so after having the devices i needed to start the raid1 to access the filesystem. unfortunately there is no mdadm in the initrd image of grml so i had to compile a static version of mdadm and put it in /static. after this i added some code to assemble all arrays in case there exists a boot option fromhd=/dev/md* ok so now everything works. great! btw: grml is a really cool tool cheers, -- : Philipp Richter Tel +43-1-8178292-51 : : LINBIT Information Technologies GmbH Fax +43-1-8178292-82 : : Vivenotgasse 48, A-1120 Vienna/Europe http://www.linbit.com :

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VMware tools on grml guest OS
by Lars Schimmer 22 Aug '07

22 Aug '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi! I setup a grml 1.0 VMware server host system and a few grml 1.0 vmware guest systems til yet. But the time on the guest systems runs absolutely wrong, so I try to install the vmware-tools packages on the guests. I grabbed VMware workstation and grabbed VMwareTools-6.0.0-45731.tar.gz out of them. Now I try to install these tools on the guests systems with 2.6.20, but every kernel module fails to built. The any-any patch is just for the host, not for the guests. Anyone managed to built the vmware-tools kernel modules on grml 1.0 guests? MfG, Lars Schimmer - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------- TU Graz, Institut für ComputerGraphik & WissensVisualisierung Tel: +43 316 873-5405 E-Mail: l.schimmer(a)cgv.tugraz.at Fax: +43 316 873-5402 PGP-Key-ID: 0x4A9B1723 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGypclmWhuE0qbFyMRAhf+AJ0RdzV+IaBqaCWcAhc+/BTSdO9IYACffhH8 5emBIphKBopEiHYOOBBZbuY= =ELSa -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Chroot using
by Frank Lehmann 22 Aug '07

22 Aug '07

Hello everybody, the other day I wanted to use "chroot" to access a XFS-partition (hda2) from grml, but it did not work. The failure notice was: "chroot: cannot run command '/bin/zsh': No such file or directory". True, zsh was not installed on the partition I tried to get chrooted - but is that necessary? And if yes, can I switch to another shell? (Entering the word "bash" before trying to chroot leads to the same result.) PS: Of course I am riding the "Meilenschwein"... :-) Thanks in advance, Frank

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Re: [Grml] Why does the speech system like to spell instead of readwords?
by Martin McCormick 21 Aug '07

21 Aug '07

"Tom Moore" writes: > The reason for Speakup spelling words has to do with the preempt kernel > option being turned on in the default Grml kernel. > If you compile a kernel with the Grml sources and turn this option off > this > will go away and Speakup will operate as you expect. I am quoting a message from the archives that was posted last March. I downloaded the live CD grml_1.0.iso image and am experiencing this very problem with software speech. Before reen venting any more wheels than necessary, is there any ISO image of this live CD that has the kernel compiled without the preempt option turned on? Does this, itself cause any other side effects? I am not afraid of building kernels but haven't built any ISO images before other than to use mkisofs to enshrine directories on a CDROM. Another idea might be to have 2 kernels on the live CD and boot from, say, grml or grml-alt. Judging from the present size of this image, there might not be enough room for that, but it is a thought. I tested the live CD on a Dell Enspiron2600 with a 1-gig Celeron CPU and 256-megs of RAM, and a ten-year-old Gateway Pentium with only 64 megs of ram and a 400-MHZ processor. Both had the spelling torture response and, surprisingly, both spoke at about the same speed. The Gateway probably would have worked just fine if not for the preemption issue. It probably wouldn't have had much memory left over for doing work with just the 64 megs. The laptop delivered little bursts of good speech and then lapsed in to slow spelling any time it was doing other work such as scrolling the screen. Thanks for any advice. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group

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Upgrading Grml-Small0.4 HD install
by - Tong - 13 Aug '07

13 Aug '07

Hi, Ever since I did 'apt-get upgrade' in my Grml-Small v0.4 HD install, I can't use 'shutdown now' or 'reboot' properly any more. E.g., reboot will complain that '/etc/init.d/grml-reboot' not found. I looked into the problem, learned that /etc/init.d/grml-reboot is from grml-etc, but I have grml-etc installed. Finally I found that somehow the 'apt-get upgrade' installed the '/etc/init.d/grml-reboot' file as '/etc/init.d/grml-reboot.dpkg-new'. I don't understand why apt-get/dpkg is doing this, ie, deliberately breaking my working system. I remember lots of packages have been updated, I don't know how many those .dpkg-new files are out there breaking my system. So, - how to fix the problem? - how to prevent it from happening again? thx a lot -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/

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Installing X in Grml-Small0.4 HD install
by - Tong - 12 Aug '07

12 Aug '07

Hi, I've done Grml-Small v0.4 HD install, and now I want to install X to it. when I 'apt-get install grml-x', I was informed that 'acpid grml-autoconfig grml-etc hwinfo libhal1 libhd13 rungetty' packages will be installed. The problem is the acpid: Setting up acpid (1.0.4-7.1) ... Loading ACPI modules.... Starting Advanced Configuration and Power Interface daemon...acpid: invoke-rc.d: initscript acpid, action "start" failed. As the consequence: dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of grml-autoconfig: grml-autoconfig depends on acpid | apmd; however: Package acpid is not configured yet. Package apmd is not installed. dpkg: error processing grml-autoconfig (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of grml-etc: grml-etc depends on grml-autoconfig; however: Package grml-autoconfig is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing grml-etc (--configure): dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of grml-x: grml-x depends on grml-etc (>= 0.5-20); however: Package grml-etc is not configured yet. Errors were encountered while processing: acpid grml-autoconfig grml-etc grml-x Q1: How can I overcome the "acpid: invoke-rc.d: initscript acpid, action "start" failed" problem? I continued on ("grml-x -force -nostart fluxbox"), but startx failed with font fixed not found. I used to solve such problem by installing xfonts-75dpi, but noticed that there is no such xfonts-75dpi packages any more. So, Q2: How to solve the "font fixed not found" problem? thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/

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GRML at the Froscon 2007
by Alexander Wirt 09 Aug '07

09 Aug '07

Hi folks, as you may already know Mika and I will be at the Froscon [1] in Sankt Augustin (near Bonn) in Germany which will take place on August 25th and 26th. Today I got the offer of a development/talk room for sunday. It would be nice if we could be able to give some talks and maybe some demonstations about GRML. Unfortunatly Mika and I have talk on Sunday ([2],[3]) and I also belong to the organisation team. So I would invite YOU (yes! we need you! [4]). If you use or develop GRML and if you want to show or tell others about GRML let me know so I can provide you with a slot. If you are fast I would also be able to declare you as booth personal which means a sleeping place (you need a sleeping bag) and breakfast for no cost :). Thanks in advance for your attention. [1] http://www.froscon.org [2] http://programm.froscon.org/2007/events/102.en.html [3] http://programm.froscon.org/2007/events/27.en.html [4] http://www.cumas.org/images/weneedyou.jpg -- Alexander Wirt, formorer(a)grml.org CC99 2DDD D39E 75B0 B0AA B25C D35B BC99 BC7D 020A

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serial kernel config, network and ssh
by Andri Handoko 09 Aug '07

09 Aug '07

Hi Mika and Grml team, I have a request and two questions :) Request: I was just looking at "http://hg.grml.org/grml-kernel" and noticed that the link "Initial config for 2.6.22-grml64" to the kernel configuration, still have the serial configuration set to 4. CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_NR_UARTS=4 CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_RUNTIME_UARTS=4 In the "grml configuration changes for 2.6.22:" link, the CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_NR_UARTS is set to 16, and the CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_RUNTIME_UARTS is set to 4. I was able to recompile the grml-small 0.4 kernel with CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_NR_UARTS=16 CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_RUNTIME_UARTS=8 and did the test to the serial ports. They are good to go :) Since I'm using 6 ports, I set the CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_RUNTIME_UARTS to 8 so I don't have to create the ttyS4..ttyS7 manually. A request, can you set the CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_NR_UARTS to 16, and CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_RUNTIME_UARTS to 8 in the grml small, grml and grml64 kernel configurations. Thanks. Question 1: I set "/etc/init.d/ssh start" to bootlocal.last file to run ssh deamon automatically. Is there proper way to run the ssh daemon, when grml-small boots? Question 2: The PC that I'm using has an ethernet card and a wifi card build in. I also use a SMC usb-ethernet adapter. How do I set grml small when it boots up, the ethernet card is set as eth0 with static ip 192.168.xx.xx, and wifi as eth1 with dhcp, and usb-ethernet adapter as eth2 when it is plug-in. In Fedora OS, at "/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/" I configured them in ifcfg-eth0, ifcfg-eth1 and ifcfg-eth2 (usb-ethernet) files. Currently I have to run the ifconfig ethX ip_address manually. Thanks a bunch. Cheers Andri ____________________________________________________________________________________ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7

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Controlling CPU Frequency
by - Tong - 09 Aug '07

09 Aug '07

Hi, I rebooted my PC the other day, and only then I know that my CPU is overheated, because I saw a BIOS warning. The fact that my CPU might have been overheated for months made me consider seriously to control my CPU frequency (My AMD cpu has that feature available in bios). I've tried to make use powernowd before, but never able to. I should feel lucky this time since the latest kernel that grml 1.0-1 uses, support cpu frequency control by default: http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_20 "Grand unification of ACPI based speedstep-centrino and acpi-cpufreq drivers. It combines functionality of these two driver into acpi-cpufreq driver." But the problem is that googling "acpi-cpufreq" didn't come up much result. The closest is from http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=256607 "... you should try the 'acpi-cpufreq' module. My favorite governor is the 'conservative' one. Under load, it will ramp up the frequency, but it will generally keep it as low as possible." But there is no details. So I'm wondering if anyone can help me here? thanks a lot! -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/

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uxterm unicode problem - part 2
by Matej Rehak 09 Aug '07

09 Aug '07

Hello people, I have made some progress with displaying non-english characters in uxterm. I've tried to run uxterm: uxterm -fn '-misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1' and it worked ! Furthermore, I found (u)xterm's definitions (aliases) of tiny, small, medium, .... font sizes (look for 'resizing-fu') here: ~/.zshrc, /etc/skel/.zshrc and I've replaced '-iso8859-15' with '-iso10646-1'. But what a surprise ! It did nothing, even after PC reboot :-( Is there a font-search utility so that I can dynamically see list of existing fonts when changing/clearing attributes ? Because it seems to me that there are no corresponding fonts for iso10646-1 and so the nearest alternative is taken, which is iso8859-15, with one exception (Huge). Best regards, M. Rehak

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uxterm unicode problem
by Matej Rehak 09 Aug '07

09 Aug '07

Hello people, I have a strange problem displaynig non-english characters in uxterm. I am using the default fonts in /etc/X11/app-defaults/UXTerm: *VT100.font2: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--8-80-75-75-c-50-iso10646-1 *VT100.font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso10646-1 *VT100.font3: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-130-75-75-c-70-iso10646-1 *VT100.font4: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-120-75-75-c-80-iso10646-1 *VT100.font5: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-iso10646-1 *VT100.font6: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-200-75-75-c-100-iso10646-1 But most national characters are displayed as blanks: čďľňšťž. They are all consonants, more info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_8859-2 The most strange thing is when I switch the font (via uxterm Unicode Fonts menu or Shift+KP_add) to "Huge", then all the chars are displayed correctly. Other applications (e.g. gvim) behave correctly. Another strange thing is that another terminal - URxvt, displays these chars correctly using (I think) the same font as uxterm's "Large". Now I've looked into ~/.Xresources: urxvt*.font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-*-140-*-*-c-*-iso8859-15 It seems to me as a display-encoding problem, but I don't know what to put in uxterm's defaults (/etc/X11/app-defaults/UXTerm) instead of iso10646-1 (none of {utf8, iso8859-15, iso8859-2} worked). Best regards, M. Rehak

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Booting with grub on usb-flash-pen
by Morten Christensen 29 Jul '07

29 Jul '07

I have installed grml-small 0.40 on an usb flash-pen with grml2hd. When I try to boot it grub answers root (hd1,0) Filesystem unknown, partition type 0x7 Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition Can any of you help me with, how to identify the flash-pen in grub? I expect to make several lines in the grub/menu, and choose between them depending on, if the PC already has a sata-harddisk or a pata-harddisk. -- Morten Christensen

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Installing grml with encrypted root with encrypted swap
by Mathew Brown 28 Jul '07

28 Jul '07

Hi, I was wondering if it was possible to install grml on an encrypted root partition and with an encrypted swap partition. I plan on installing grml on an external USB drive and since it can be stolen so easily, I'd rather protect my data using encryption. So is this possible? According to htt://grml.org/grml2hd/grml2hd.html this can't be done but that web page hasn't been updated since Jan. 2006. Any ideas? Thanks for your help. -- Mathew Brown mathewbrown(a)fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - And now for something completely different

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vmware server 1.0.3 on grml 1.0
by Lars Schimmer 27 Jul '07

27 Jul '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi! Has anyone managed to compile and run the vmware 1.0.3 server (with any-any-112 patch) on grml 1.0 with kernel 2.6.20 ? At my HD install it won´t compile the kernel module :-( MfG, Lars Schimmer - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------- TU Graz, Institut für ComputerGraphik & WissensVisualisierung Tel: +43 316 873-5405 E-Mail: l.schimmer(a)cgv.tugraz.at Fax: +43 316 873-5402 PGP-Key-ID: 0x4A9B1723 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGqJrDmWhuE0qbFyMRAsrwAJ9XZCAmyj2NPdfFFjDF1ehd6SMG/gCfTIZj ge5O40vZrMVQYYFYHnGOIR0= =zxl1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Opera browser
by Matej Rehak 25 Jul '07

25 Jul '07

Hello, Today I have tried to install Opera web browser via Aptitude, and I didn't find it. Will it be available for GRML in the future ? Thanx, M.Rehak

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