You made Grml for people to be flexible in remastering it? I think Grml was, and is complete as it is. If I want to add a daemon at startup I need no systemd to successful remastering Grml. But of course it is your decision.
If you're interested in a Grml flavor *without* systemd you're invited to work on that, you might be also interested in picking up file-rc as upstream respectively package maintainer (file-rc being the init system we relied on so far and where no maintainer seems to be present anymore, esp. once both Alex and me will orphan it).
Thanks for the invitation to maintain Grml with sysvinit. But I will not have the time to maintain such a big change alone. But as grml is also listed in http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#GNU.2FLinux_distribution... I send a copy of this post to the devuan mailing list. Maybe there will be someone who is using Grml and interested to keep this systemd free.
Regards Klaus
Systemd is the reason why I dropped GRML as an admin/recovery system, myself. or rather GRML dropped me, as the sytemd version fails on some of my older hardware. I mostly use a custom devuan image these days. Just my 2p. Cheers
* pils@fsfe.org [Wed Jul 20, 2016 at 05:51:28PM +0200]:
Thanks for the invitation to maintain Grml with sysvinit. But I will not have the time to maintain such a big change alone. But as grml is also listed in http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#GNU.2FLinux_distribution... I send a copy of this post to the devuan mailing list. Maybe there will be someone who is using Grml and interested to keep this systemd free.
Systemd is the reason why I dropped GRML as an admin/recovery system, myself. or rather GRML dropped me, as the sytemd version fails on some of my older hardware. I mostly use a custom devuan image these days. Just my 2p.
We don't have an official Grml release using systemd as init system yet, so I've no idea what you're referring to, also I'm not aware of an according bug report at all.
regards, -mika-
Le Thu, 21 Jul 2016 09:04:50 +0200, Michael Prokop mika@grml.org a écrit :
- pils@fsfe.org [Wed Jul 20, 2016 at 05:51:28PM +0200]:
Thanks for the invitation to maintain Grml with sysvinit. But I will not have the time to maintain such a big change alone. But as grml is also listed in http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#GNU.2FLinux_distribution... I send a copy of this post to the devuan mailing list. Maybe there will be someone who is using Grml and interested to keep this systemd free.
Systemd is the reason why I dropped GRML as an admin/recovery system, myself. or rather GRML dropped me, as the sytemd version fails on some of my older hardware. I mostly use a custom devuan image these days. Just my 2p.
We don't have an official Grml release using systemd as init system yet, so I've no idea what you're referring to,
Correct. It still causes issues with peripherals, fatal in some cases. (on older hardware).
also I'm not aware of an according bug report at all.
There is certainly none from me ; it may sound selfish but systemd doesn't do anything I need or want, so I may use it if it works but I won't install a debugging framework on low-resource systems to make it work. I don't usually file bug reports against Microsoft operating systems either.
pils@fsfe.org plesimple@ymail.com wrote:
You made Grml for people to be flexible in remastering it? I think Grml was, and is complete as it is. If I want to add a daemon at startup I need no systemd to successful remastering Grml. But of course it is your decision.
If you're interested in a Grml flavor *without* systemd you're invited to work on that, you might be also interested in picking up file-rc as upstream respectively package maintainer (file-rc being the init system we relied on so far and where no maintainer seems to be present anymore, esp. once both Alex and me will orphan it).
Thanks for the invitation to maintain Grml with sysvinit. But I will not have the time to maintain such a big change alone. But as grml is also listed in http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#GNU.2FLinux_distribution... I send a copy of this post to the devuan mailing list. Maybe there will be someone who is using Grml and interested to keep this systemd free.
Regards Klaus
Systemd is the reason why I dropped GRML as an admin/recovery system, myself. or rather GRML dropped me, as the sytemd version fails on some of my older hardware. I mostly use a custom devuan image these days. Just my 2p. Cheers
And I need a version with zfs support, so I need to either remaster or if someone has one, that would be great.
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