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    Hallo,<br>
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    Ich habe auch das Problem, dass bei Anmeldung auf meiner veränderten
    subscription page
    (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.mur.at/mailman/listinfo/cropfm-newsletter">https://lists.mur.at/mailman/listinfo/cropfm-newsletter</a>) ein Fehler
    wegen fehlendem CAPTA kommt. <br>
    Ich glaube man muss folgendes einfügen:<br>
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     Problem ist aber, dass mich Mailman nicht lässt und es nur mit
    "shell access" zulässt. Habe ich den? Und wo finde ich die Files?<br>
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    In jedem Fall schöne Weihnachten!...;-)<br>
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    LG Tarek<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 22.12.2022 12:43, gerald weber
      sixpackfilm wrote:<br>
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      Lieber Ralph
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      <div class="">ich verstehe leider die infos nicht bezüglich den
        Veränderungen bei den mailing-listen.</div>
      <div class="">allerdings ist unser newsletter, den ich vorhin an
        die liste geschickt habe </div>
      <div class="">(betreff: <span style="color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85);
          font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class="">SAVE THE
          DATES: "Flatform" in person: Di, 10.Jänner 2023 Filmprogramm
          Stadtkino/Freies Kino + Mi, 11. Jänner 2023 Buchpräsentation
          mumok Bibliothek</span><span style="color: rgba(0, 0, 0,
          0.85); font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class="">)</span></div>
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      <div class="">und wo wir normalerweise eine aufforderung zur
        bestätigung bekommen, nicht auffindbar unter:</div>
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      <div class="">was muss ich beachen?</div>
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      <div class="">danke</div>
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      <div class="">geri</div>
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                                                          class="">-------------------<br
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                                                          Gerald Weber <br
                                                          class="">
                                                          sixpack<span
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                                                          class=""><b
                                                          class="">film</b></span><br
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style="font-style: normal;" class="">Neubaugasse 45/13<br class="">
                                                          1070 Vienna |
                                                          Austria<br
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                                                          <a
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facebook.com/sixpackfilm<br class="">
                                                          t:
                                                          +43-1-5260990-12<br
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gerald@sixpackfilm.com">gerald@sixpackfilm.com</a></span></font><br class="">
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                                                          Solidarity
                                                          with Ukraine –</i></b></font></div>
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                                                          class=""><i
                                                          class="">–
                                                          WOMAN. LIFE.
                                                          FREEDOM –</i></b></font></div>
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style="font-style: normal;" class=""><b class="">Living Collection
                                                          Online</b></span><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          Film des
                                                          Monats / Film
                                                          of the Month<br
                                                          class="">
                                                          <br class="">
                                                          Annja
                                                          Krautgasser,
                                                          aka [n:ja]<br
                                                          class="">
                                                          <b class="">Romanes</b><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          (2010, 16 min)<br
                                                          class="">
                                                          <a
                                                          href="http://sixpackfilm.com"
                                                          class=""
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">sixpackfilm.com</a> <a
href="https://www.sixpackfilm.com/en/" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">-></a><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          <b class=""><br
                                                          class="">
                                                          Index Edition
                                                          – VOD/DVD</b></div>
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                                                          release: <span
style="font-style: normal;" class=""><b class="">052 - RAMSAU
                                                          AM DACHSTEIN</b></span> -
                                                          a film by
                                                          Elfriede
                                                          Jelinek
                                                          & Claus
                                                          Homschak</div>
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            <div class="">Am 16.12.2022 um 17:35 schrieb Ralph - NOC|<a
                href="http://mur.at" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">mur.at</a>
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                  1.0);" class=""><b class="">Von: </b></span><span
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                  Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">"Ralph - NOC|<a
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                  1.0);" class=""><b class="">Betreff: </b></span><span
                  style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica
                  Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">[TODO]
                    selbstgebaute newsletter subscription pages
                    funktionieren mit mailman-2.1.39 nicht mehr!</b><br
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                  style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica
                  Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">16. Dezember
                  2022 um 17:35:42 MEZ<br class="">
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                  style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica
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                  1.0);" class=""><b class="">An: </b></span><span
                  style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica
                  Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><a
                    href="mailto:list-admins@lists.mur.at"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">list-admins@lists.mur.at</a><br
                    class="">
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                margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span
                  style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica
                  Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127,
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                  style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica
                  Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><a
                    href="mailto:list-admins@lists.mur.at"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">list-admins@lists.mur.at</a><br
                    class="">
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              Liebe Listenadmininstrator:innen!<br class="">
              <br class="">
              -> Diese Email betrifft Webseiten, die ihre
              Newsletter-Abonnement-Seite selbst gebaut haben und
              *nicht* die Interessent:innen auf die Listinfo-Seite der
              Mailingliste auf <a href="https://lists.murat"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.murat</a>
              (oder <a href="https://lists"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists</a>.<your-domain>)
              weiterleiten.<br class="">
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              höchstunwahrscheinlich machen:<br class="">
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              1. Subscription-API Token ("Subscription Form Secret",
              auch "CSRF-Token" genannt [1])<br class="">
              <br class="">
              2. Simples textuelles CAPTCHA zum Ausschließen von Bots
              (*nicht* google-reCaptcha-basierend)<br class="">
              <br class="">
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              Das hat folgende Auswirkungen:<br class="">
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              * Das Subscription Form Token muss mit den Formulardaten
              an Mailman übergeben werden<br class="">
              <br class="">
              <blockquote type="cite" class=""><input type="hidden"
                name="sub_form_token"
                value="1671206423:de-2:c382b0ec5017b684a56d6362784b94fd9313a58b"><br
                  class="">
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                href="https://lists.mur.at/mailman/listinfo/<your-list-name>"
                class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.mur.at/mailman/listinfo/<your-list-name></a><br
                class="">
              als Zufallsstring generiert und mit der HTML-Seite
              ausgeschickt.<br class="">
              <br class="">
              <br class="">
              * Die korrekte zur CAPTCHA-Abfrage gehörige Antwort muss
              mit den Formulardaten an Mailman übergeben werden.<br
                class="">
              Diese wird ebenfalls für die Listinfo-Page <a
                href="https://lists.mur.at/mailman/listinfo"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.mur.at/mailman/listinfo</a>/<your-list-name
              generiert und mit der HTML-Seite ausgeschickt.<br class="">
              <br class="">
              <br class="">
              Im Anhang findet ihr die zu erwartende Fehlermeldung und
              zur Ansicht die Listinfo-Page von <a
                href="https://lists.mur.at/mailman/listinfo/testlist"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.mur.at/mailman/listinfo/testlist</a><br
                class="">
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              endgültigen Listinfo-(Subscription)-Page könnt ihr unter <a
href="https://lists.mur.at/mailman/edithtml/<your-list-name>"
                class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.mur.at/mailman/edithtml/<your-list-name></a>
              einsehen und auch verändern.<br class="">
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              ralph<br class="">
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                class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-Site-Request-Forgery</a><br
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              service.<br class="">
              List-admins mailing list<br class="">
              <a href="mailto:List-admins@lists.mur.at"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">List-admins@lists.mur.at</a><br
                class="">
              <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.mur.at/mailman/listinfo/list-admins">https://lists.mur.at/mailman/listinfo/list-admins</a><br
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A mur.at service.
List-admins mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:List-admins@lists.mur.at">List-admins@lists.mur.at</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.mur.at/mailman/listinfo/list-admins">https://lists.mur.at/mailman/listinfo/list-admins</a>
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