[Grml] rc1

[Michael Prokop]

* martin yazdzik <yazdzik at nyct.net> [20070511 06:15]:

> What does work for me, ignorant noob that I am?

> everything, basically - getting a complete gnome desktop is a matter of
> really knowing deps, but otherwise, cool.  All serious issues, drivers,
> sound, ndiswrapper, xorg config worked otob.

Fine. :)

> note - one can no longer set time or services via gnome apps because
> gnome is convinced that the distro is not debian

Oh, strange. /etc/debian_version exists on grml, so what's the
relevant stuff that Gnome thinks that it's not Debian? :)

> 3d accel works with my ancient ati x600 card with ati as driver in xorg,
> which is fantastic....wow ....  note one must install gl dri libs by
> hand! there is no reason to leave out such a small package, and if the
> mesa dri were included and the xorg conf for ati drivers set to ati,
> this would happen by itself. 

Hm, which package are you talking about? libgl1-mesa-dri?

Basically that's documented even in the xorg.conf file itself:

,----
| # Make sure you have the relevant Debian packages on your system
| # to be able to use DRI (libgl1-mesa-dri for example)
| Section "DRI"
|         Mode 0666
| EndSection
`----

Installing libgl1-mesa-dri would require 37.6MB of additional disk
space, sorry - no chance.

> for some reason, one still needs "ide1-noprobe" to get the atapi drivers
> for a sata dvd drive - I am not sure why this does not happen with
> feisty or sabayon...

This should be related to CONFIG_PATA_* stuff in the kernel.

> the directories to mount the fstab or mtab entries are no longer created
> automatically - silly this, as that was default behaviour on 0.9, and
> saved unnecessary typing.

Oh, this shouldn't happen. Do you have a file named
/mnt/.grml-auto-created_do-not-delete-this-file? If so: what's
inside the file? Which versions of grml-rebuildfstab and
grml-scanpartitions? I'd like to debug this problem, could you
please provide me more details off-the-list? Either personal mail or
http://bts.grml.org/grml/ - both fine for me.

> the time zone thing is a disaster - after install grml is convinced that
> the hw clock is set to cest, so booting in and out of it requires a
> reset of the bios clock.There has to be a way to set this ab initio.

> Either issue a warning that, before installing, the system should be
> rebooted and the parameter TZ= set, or better yet, script the
> questions:'
> a. is the hw clock set to utc?  if no, then
> b. to what time zone is the clock set.

> Thus, in my case, no, and America/New_York.

> Now, if I had remembered to set the parameter at the original boot of
> the live cd, this probably would not have happened, but that is not
> something one considers, thus the warning or scripted questions would
> save a failed install or two.  While almost all grml users are in
> europe, this is a simple matter to remedy.

Yeah, a sucking problem if that does not work as expected to.

I've documented this in more detail at http://grml.org/faq/#timezone
Can you please take a look at it and tell me what you are missing?

I just don't want to add more and more dialogs within grml2hd if
there are existing and working tools already. If the docs don't
provide what you need please let me know so we can think of a way
how to improve the situation, but if the docs and the tools
mentioned there cover what you need we should leave it that way. :)

> Although hardly necessary, since the distro is not designed to be a
> consumer desktop, it would be nice if the entire gnome were available
> somewhere, a la ubuntu.  for kde, this is unnecessary, as the versions
> in either unstable or experimental all match, and most always do. gnome
> is a mess over two or three versions.

As I've written already: Gnome is running through a transition.
Nothing I can do for you, sorry. Just be patient and wait until
things settled down.

> There is still no subsitute for runlevel.conf anywhere - this is the
> best thing anyone has ever invented for the end user.  All in all, grml
> 1 is nigh on perfect.

:)

regards,
-mika-
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