Re: [Grml] grml 0.8: how to use my 3com pcmcia card?

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* Werner Flamme werner.flamme@ufz.de [20060815 14:15]:
Michael Prokop schrieb am 15.08.2006 11:30:
- Werner Flamme werner.flamme@ufz.de [20060815 11:12]:
BTW, it took more than 3 hours to boot from CD. Especially the creation of /etc/fstab seemed to work endless.
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Does it scan the whole disk? Shouldn't it be enough to read the partition table?
No, it does not scan the whole disk of course. scanpartitions just takes a look at /proc/partitions, tries to identify the filesystems on the available partitions and reports them in an appropriate format for rebuildfstab, which tries to build an appropriate /etc/fstab then.
I'd like to find out what's going on on your system. Can you please boot your system with 'grml nofstab', run grml-hwinfo and send me the resulting info.tar.bz2 (off the list)? If you manually run 'scanpartitions' - is it what runs that long?
Well, boot from disk takes about one minute, and 'scanpartitions' takes about 3 seconds to complete after logging in. It's just the time between the output "scanning for partitions" and the next line that made me assume the wohle disk ist scanned...
Ok.
Booting with 'grml nofstab keyboard=de lang=de' causes "Waitung for /dev to be fully populated... done" to be the last line on the screen for a long time (> 15 min.). After 40 minutes I read "ACPI Bios found", but now I have to go to a colleague's farewell party ;-)
Ok, seems to be a problem with a specific driver. Does booting with "grml noudev nofstab lang=de" work for you? Disclaimer: many drivers won't be loaded automatically then. I'm not yet sure whether it's udev (with a specific driver) or another startup script causing the problems.
This screenshot shows a typical startup of grml:
http://grml.org/tmp/gkrellShoot_08-15-06_223409.png
Can you please point me to the line which you see right before it's hanging?
JFYI: If you use lang=de you don't need keyboard=de anymore. :)
regards, -mika-

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Michael Prokop schrieb am 15.08.2006 22:37:
Booting with 'grml nofstab keyboard=de lang=de' causes "Waitung for /dev to be fully populated... done" to be the last line on the screen for a long time (> 15 min.). After 40 minutes I read "ACPI Bios found", but now I have to go to a colleague's farewell party ;-)
Ok, seems to be a problem with a specific driver. Does booting with "grml noudev nofstab lang=de" work for you? Disclaimer: many drivers won't be loaded automatically then. I'm not yet sure whether it's udev (with a specific driver) or another startup script causing the problems.
This screenshot shows a typical startup of grml:
http://grml.org/tmp/gkrellShoot_08-15-06_223409.png
Can you please point me to the line which you see right before it's hanging?
The boot hangs between the lines Waiting for /dev to be fully populated... done. (line 5 in your screenshot when " * Merging..." is counted as 1) and Cleaning up ifupdown... done. (line 6) The "done." in line 5 appers quickly, it's really *after* *finishing* this line. The CD drive is accessed several times during the waiting period.
JFYI: If you use lang=de you don't need keyboard=de anymore. :)
Aaaahhh :-) so always typing kezboard is unnecessary :-)
regards, -mika-
The problem only occurs on this special laptop. I had grml up and running on my vmware in about 1 minute (given 256 MB RAM). Since I put the laptop into a server room yesterday I can't test now - it takes quarter an hour to walk over and back, and 1 hour to boot from CD :-( Booting from harddisk is as fast as can be on this machine (Celeron Mendocino 366, 64 MB RAM). So it may be a problem of modprobing - although I manually inserted a lot of lines into /etc/modules now...
Cheers, Werner
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* Werner Flamme werner.flamme@ufz.de [20060816 10:15]:
Michael Prokop schrieb am 15.08.2006 22:37:
Booting with 'grml nofstab keyboard=de lang=de' causes "Waitung for /dev to be fully populated... done" to be the last line on the screen for a long time (> 15 min.). After 40 minutes I read "ACPI Bios found", but now I have to go to a colleague's farewell party ;-)
Ok, seems to be a problem with a specific driver. Does booting with "grml noudev nofstab lang=de" work for you? Disclaimer: many drivers won't be loaded automatically then. I'm not yet sure whether it's udev (with a specific driver) or another startup script causing the problems.
This screenshot shows a typical startup of grml: http://grml.org/tmp/gkrellShoot_08-15-06_223409.png Can you please point me to the line which you see right before it's hanging?
The boot hangs between the lines Waiting for /dev to be fully populated... done. (line 5 in your screenshot when " * Merging..." is counted as 1) and Cleaning up ifupdown... done. (line 6) The "done." in line 5 appers quickly, it's really *after* *finishing* this line. The CD drive is accessed several times during the waiting period.
Thanks. So either it's a problem in /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh or probably a race condition in/with udev.
JFYI: If you use lang=de you don't need keyboard=de anymore. :)
Aaaahhh :-) so always typing kezboard is unnecessary :-)
Jupp :)
The problem only occurs on this special laptop. I had grml up and running on my vmware in about 1 minute (given 256 MB RAM). Since I put the laptop into a server room yesterday I can't test now - it takes quarter an hour to walk over and back, and 1 hour to boot from CD :-( Booting from harddisk is as fast as can be on this machine (Celeron Mendocino 366, 64 MB RAM). So it may be a problem of modprobing - although I manually inserted a lot of lines into /etc/modules now...
Ok, thanks.
So let's see if a new kernel will fix the issue. If not we could investigate in debugging it on our own. Please keep me informed about any news, thanks.
regards, -mika-
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