
Hi mika:
On seeing that grml is providing a grml-medium edition, I checked it out immediately.
However I found that grml-medium still does not including X. Mika, please please include X in grml-medium, and grml-x & firefox too. Otherwise, there is no much reason for people to prefer grml-medium, because it will be just grml_small plus some extra packages, which I see no obvious reason that I can't install them myself.
thanks

* T o n g mlist4suntong@yahoo.com [20071110 19:10]:
On seeing that grml is providing a grml-medium edition, I checked it out immediately.
However I found that grml-medium still does not including X. Mika, please please include X in grml-medium, and grml-x & firefox too. Otherwise, there is no much reason for people to prefer grml-medium, because it will be just grml_small plus some extra packages, which I see no obvious reason that I can't install them myself.
I've to investigate how much space X would take first of all. grml-medium is supposed to provide some common sysadmin tools without the hacks from grml-small like removing /usr/share/doc, so I won't promise anything here. ;)
Installing X on a harddisc system is pretty easy anyway, it shouldn't be much more than 'apt-get install xserver-xorg grml-x'.
regards, -mika-

First of all, thanks for all the replies.
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:47:55 +0100, Michael Prokop wrote:
However I found that grml-medium still does not including X. Mika, please please include X in grml-medium, and grml-x & firefox too. Otherwise, there is no much reason for people to prefer grml-medium, because it will be just grml_small plus some extra packages, which I see no obvious reason that I can't install them myself.
I've to investigate how much space X would take first of all. grml-medium is supposed to provide some common sysadmin tools without the hacks from grml-small like removing /usr/share/doc, so I won't promise anything here. ;)
OK. understand. But that'd make grml-medium not much different than grml-small. I.e., there won't be must gain in the user base. Only that the users who use grml-small before are split further into two (smaller) groups.
Adding X would roughly add about 60M of space. I remastered grml-small v0.4, added X, fluxbox, and emacs (can't remember if I added firefox), the whole iso went to about 110~120M.
Installing X on a harddisc system is pretty easy anyway, it shouldn't be much more than 'apt-get install xserver-xorg grml-x'.
Not for me. Installing and configuring X has always been troublesome to me, despite that I've been using Linux for nearly 10 years (E.g., I have to settle with vesa for my old ATI RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] rev 1 card now. No other drivers works reliably). That's why it is very very important to me that a Linux-Live system supports X.
thanks

* T o n g mlist4suntong@yahoo.com [20071111 00:06]:
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:47:55 +0100, Michael Prokop wrote:
I've to investigate how much space X would take first of all. grml-medium is supposed to provide some common sysadmin tools without the hacks from grml-small like removing /usr/share/doc, so I won't promise anything here. ;)
OK. understand. But that'd make grml-medium not much different than grml-small. I.e., there won't be must gain in the user base. Only that the users who use grml-small before are split further into two (smaller) groups.
Adding X would roughly add about 60M of space. I remastered grml-small v0.4, added X, fluxbox, and emacs (can't remember if I added firefox), the whole iso went to about 110~120M.
Current grml-small is hanging around at ~110MB, grml-medium at ~150MB, so I don't think we have that much space left. Anyway, it will require some work in any case, so stay tuned.
regards, -mika-
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