mixing of distributions grml - unstable - testing - sarge for notebook
Hallo Liste
For the user applications I would like to use as much as possible stable applications, also for a low update rate. (gnome desktop, gdm, evolution...) For the hardware I am forced to use up to date kernel drivers X server etc . I did not succeed up to now to resolve these dependencies. So I cannot use the notebook. Do I need dbus ? it is broken when installing gnome desktop environment. I definitely need udev, but it is also broken. other dependencies may show up when continuing
So I cannot use the notebook up to now for user work.
how to proceed. best regards
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 13:03:23 +0200, Erich Minderlein wrote:
Hallo Liste
For the user applications I would like to use as much as possible stable applications, also for a low update rate. (gnome desktop, gdm, evolution...) For the hardware I am forced to use up to date kernel drivers X server etc . I did not succeed ...
that *is* going to be the result of what you are asking for.
IMHO, the only way that can satisfy all your requirements is to install grml, switch to testing repository, then update only if absolutely necessary.
It will be stable, with low update rate and have all your hardware working.
my 2c
* Erich Minderlein erminderlein@locoware.de [20061027 13:11]:
For the user applications I would like to use as much as possible stable applications, also for a low update rate. (gnome desktop, gdm, evolution...) For the hardware I am forced to use up to date kernel drivers X server etc . I did not succeed up to now to resolve these dependencies. So I cannot use the notebook. Do I need dbus ? it is broken when installing gnome desktop environment. I definitely need udev, but it is also broken. other dependencies may show up when continuing
So I cannot use the notebook up to now for user work. how to proceed.
Stable¹, up2date, low update-rate. Chose 2 of them. :)
* Very stable, not up2date, low update rate: Debian stable * Quite stable, more up2date, not so high update rate: Debian testing * Unstable, up2date, high update rate: Debian unstable
grml is similar to the third option, with less "Unstable" inside. If you are following the grml release cycle, the upgrade path² is not such pain in the ass. Especially because I run several regression tests and report every found problem to the Debian BTS³ (hey, call me a wrapper around Debian/unstable! 8-)), but also thanks to nifty stuff like grml-policy-rc.d (I hope you are aware of it, are you?).
Oh, and to keep the update rate in the third option lower: you could pin grml to Debian/testing (as proposed by T in his mail).
If nothing of the above is an option for you, and if Debian stable via d-i does not work, you can install plain Debian via grml:
http://michael-prokop.at/blog/2006/08/11/install-debian-etch-via-grml/
Make sure you get a recent kernel version then, use backports where necessary and useful.
But of course all of the above depends on your exact needs.
¹ Not necessarily as in "stable software", but as in "stable packagemangement, stable upgrade path, stable bugs".
² http://wiki.grml.org/doku.php?id=upgrading
³ http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?submitter=mika@grml.org
²^² Daddy, help! We are running out of iso8859-numbers. Let's get some coffee instead.
regards, -mika-
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 18:24:23 +0200, Michael Prokop wrote:
Oh, and to keep the update rate in the third option lower: you could pin grml to Debian/testing
Wow, you learn new things every day here...
What's the differences between / advantages over switching grml over to testing repository?
How can I pin grml to Debian/testing?
thanks
* T mlist4suntong@yahoo.com [20061029 04:15]:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 18:24:23 +0200, Michael Prokop wrote:
Oh, and to keep the update rate in the third option lower: you could pin grml to Debian/testing
Wow, you learn new things every day here...
What's the differences between / advantages over switching grml over to testing repository?
How can I pin grml to Debian/testing?
I meant the same thing as you, you just have to make sure /etc/apt/preferences is according to your needs, that's why I used the word 'pin'. :)
regards, -mika-
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