Easiest way to install Debian with grml-debootstrap
Hi. I've heard a lot about grml-debootstrap, GRML's debian installation script. I am assuming this does not install sid (but stable)
Hear is what I was wondering. 1. What is the easiest way to get a debian installation going with it, (as I am no Debian exbert) and will be using the Speakup support in GRML) 2. Is it difficult to get the isntallation done? 3. How can I get a grml-kernel (because it includes speakup) downloaded into the new Debian isntallation, as the stock kernel will not talk out of the box. I could do the manual work of installing via git with linux.speakup.org, but would rather not. Thanks again, all!
My final question: What happened to grml? development seems to be not happening, nothing was released in september, and now October is coming to a close. I would like an explination from the leader of grml as to why this has been happening. The roadmap still shows whatever it was...so..
Thanks again. Happy CD developing.
Regards, --Keith
* Keith Hinton keithint1234@gmail.com [20091021 12:00]:
My final question: What happened to grml? development seems to be not happening, nothing was released in september, and now October is coming to a close. I would like an explination from the leader of grml as to why this has been happening. The roadmap still shows whatever it was...so..
Sorry we weren't that chatty, we are busy working on the stable release. The first release candidate will appear within the next 2 days, the stable release is expected for 2009-10-31. And the release will bring *really* cool features. :)
regards, -mika-
Keith Hinton keithint1234@gmail.com: [...]
What happened to grml? development seems to be not happening, nothing was released in september, and now October is coming to a close. I would like an explination from the leader of grml as to why this has been happening. The roadmap still shows whatever it was...so..
Keeping roadmaps up to date is for dying project. :-) Development happens in version control. And that has been everything but dead for us.
Regards, Frank
Keith Hinton schrieb:
Hi. I've heard a lot about grml-debootstrap, GRML's debian installation script. I am assuming this does not install sid (but stable)
It installs stable by default, but claims to be able to install oldstable, stable, testing and unstable. I have only used it to install stable by now.
Hear is what I was wondering.
What is the easiest way to get a debian installation going with it, (as I am no Debian exbert) and will be using the Speakup support in GRML)
1. Partition your disk (using cfdisk or parted or whatever you prefer). You do not need to format the partition, but making it bootable never hurts.
2. Start grml-debootstrap and follow the instructions (it will ask about where to install to, where to install from and the root password). Alternatively you can give all these parameters on the command line, see man grml-debootstrap.
3. Wait some time (depending on your network speed).
4. Afterwards your Debian installation is finished. You only have to reboot into it. It will be a minimal Debian installation with a few more packages listed in /etc/debootstrap/packages. Use apt-get to install other things you want to have.
- Is it difficult to get the isntallation done?
If you just want plain Debian, no. If you need more before booting it (like speakup), you will have to chroot into your installation and add what you need (aptitude install ...).
- How can I get a grml-kernel (because it includes speakup)
downloaded into the new Debian isntallation, as the stock kernel will not talk out of the box.
There is a prepackaged version of speakup available in package speakup-modules-2.6-686, but I don't know how current it is and whether it supports all the speak options included with GRML.
I do not think espeakup is packaged for Debian stable; it is available in testing and unstable.
When I find some time later, I might try to get a vanilla Debian Lenny (installed with grml-debootstrap) to (software-)speak, but I cannot promise anything.
Hope this helps,
Michael
Michael Schierl schrieb:
When I find some time later, I might try to get a vanilla Debian Lenny (installed with grml-debootstrap) to (software-)speak, but I cannot promise anything.
Okay, I tried it :-)
There is a prepackaged version of speakup available in package speakup-modules-2.6-686, but I don't know how current it is and whether it supports all the speak options included with GRML.
I did not get that one to load speakup_soft without crashing my (virtual) machine, so I tried builing it from source instead.
I do not think espeakup is packaged for Debian stable; it is available in testing and unstable.
From quick googling I could not find a download link for espeakup
either, but since speech dispatcher is included in Debian, I used speechd-up - successfuly.
Let's chroot into our freshly deboostrapped system:
# grml-chroot /dev/sda1 /bin/bash # cd ~
Ok, first install speech dispatcher and alsa utils (for setting the volume which somehow starts muted on my machine) and a few packages needed for compiling stuff:
# aptitude install speech-dispatcher alsa-utils # aptitude install build-essential libspeechd-dev libglib2.0-dev
Then download and install speechd-up (I did this first because I wanted to use the Debian modules from speakup, which did not work):
# wget \ http://www.freebsoft.org/pub/projects/speechd-up/speechd-up-0.4.tar.gz # tar xfz speechd-up-0.4.tar.gz # cd speechd-up-0.4 # ./configure # make speechd-up # make install # cd ..
Then download and compile stable speakup modules. Note that we have to cheat a bit here, as the makefile tries to refer to the currently running kernel's module directory via `uname -r`, but the currently running kernel is 2.6.28-grml and not 2.6.26-2-686. If there is any cleaner way to do that, please tell me - and no, I don't think symlinking the modules directories is cleaner.
Anyway, here we go:
# wget --passive \ ftp://linux-speakup.org/pub/speakup/speakup-3.1.3.tar.bz2 # tar xfj speakup-3.1.3.tar.bz2 # cd speakup-3.1.3/src # echo 'ls -1 /lib/modules' >/root/uname # chmod a+x /root/uname # export PATH=/root:$PATH # make # make modules_install # rm /root/uname # export PATH=${PATH:6} # cd ../..
Now I built a small init script and stored it as /etc/init.d/speakup:
#!/bin/bash /usr/bin/amixer set PCM 80% unmute /usr/bin/amixer set Master 80% unmute /sbin/modprobe speakup_soft /usr/local/bin/speechd-up
Now set permissions and symlink it to get it started late at the boot process:
# chmod a+x /etc/init.d/speakup # cd /etc/rc2.d # ln -s ../init.d/speakup S90speakup
Done. After a reboot into my shiny new system, my Debian Linux spoke to me. And I was glad I knew I just had to press CapsLock+Ctrl+Return to "turn him off". :-)
Regards,
Michael
* Michael Schierl schierlm@gmx.de [20091021 23:44]:
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Then download and compile stable speakup modules. Note that we have to cheat a bit here, as the makefile tries to refer to the currently running kernel's module directory via `uname -r`, but the currently running kernel is 2.6.28-grml and not 2.6.26-2-686. If there is any cleaner way to do that, please tell me - and no, I don't think symlinking the modules directories is cleaner.
The speakup kernel modules provided via Debian don't work? Something like:
aptitude install speakup-source m-a -l 2.6.26-2-686 a-i speakup
should do the trick.
HTH && regards, -mika-
Michael Prokop schrieb:
The speakup kernel modules provided via Debian don't work? Something like:
aptitude install speakup-source m-a -l 2.6.26-2-686 a-i speakup
should do the trick.
Yeah, it printed some garbled output during the process, but the modules it built were fine. Stange that these modules work and the pre-built modules don't...
Michael
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