Hi,
I'm just wondering, are grml packages initially installed by aptitude?
The reason that I'm asking is that after 'aptitude purge evms', I found the libevms-2.5 is still in the system.
Also, after 'aptitude purge shish', the dietlibc dietlibc-dev are still in the system.
I've never install those package myself, so I'm wondering how grml packages are initially installed.
thanks
* T mlist4suntong@yahoo.com [20061228 00:15]:
I'm just wondering, are grml packages initially installed by aptitude?
No.
The reason that I'm asking is that after 'aptitude purge evms', I found the libevms-2.5 is still in the system.
Run 'deborphan' to remove unnecessary packages from your system.
Also, after 'aptitude purge shish', the dietlibc dietlibc-dev are still in the system.
Huh, why should dietlibc* be removed when removing shish?
Use deborphan and debfoster to clean up your system if that's what you want to do.
I've never install those package myself, so I'm wondering how grml packages are initially installed.
Usually with apt-get.
regards, -mika-
I'm just wondering, are grml packages initially installed by aptitude?
He means the initial hard drive install:
Grml2hd does a "copy all" operation. There was discussion months ago, check archives, or view /usr/sbin/grml2hd. The running CD-ROM copies itself to the hard drive leveraging chroot for mods. (We prefer grml2hd over grml2usb for usb devices > 2 GB or so.)
From there you have a very normal Debian system, so aptitude just works.
The hard drive can boot like a live CD with hardware autodetection but is still normal Debian. That is a huge advantage over distros like Puppy, Dyne, and even Damn Small Linux which uses outdated kernels (2.4.x last I looked) and software. Grml offers very up-to-date packages.
Run 'deborphan' to remove unnecessary packages from your system.
Mika: Add deborphan to the end of grml2hd?
M
* Mark 27e3kk302@sneakemail.com [20061228 23:59]:
I'm just wondering, are grml packages initially installed by aptitude?
He means the initial hard drive install:
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Oh ok :)
Run 'deborphan' to remove unnecessary packages from your system.
Mika: Add deborphan to the end of grml2hd?
You won't find any packages shipped with grml that could be caught by "a normal deborphan run", trust me. :) Of course - if you remove some packages, deborphan might find packages then - but that's because *you* removed packages. :)
regards, -mika-
* Mark 27e3kk302@sneakemail.com [20061229 02:15]:
because *you* removed packages. :)
Yes, but grml2hd incorporates a dialog for package removal. So clutter cleanup might make sense.
But you won't see which packages will be deleted by deborphan (some people might hate me) or we would have another dialog within grml2hd. NACK from my side therefore.
regards, -mika-
Michael Prokop schrieb:
- T mlist4suntong@yahoo.com [20061228 00:15]:
I'm just wondering, are grml packages initially installed by aptitude?
No.
The reason that I'm asking is that after 'aptitude purge evms', I found the libevms-2.5 is still in the system.
Run 'deborphan' to remove unnecessary packages from your system.
I guess the point "T" wants to make is that aptitude tracks which packages have been installed manually and which have been installed automatically (i. e. to fulfill dependencies). Automatically installed packages will be uninstalled as soon as they are no longer needed. You can change this flag manually if you want to: Usually I select the "libs" category in aptitude and press "M" to mark all packages in it as autoMatically installed. I don't know how this can be done (for the whole category) on the command line.
Use deborphan and debfoster to clean up your system if that's what you want to do.
I did not use deborphan since Debian Woody, since aptitude does the job as well for me.
Michael
* Michael Schierl schierlm-public@gmx.de [20061229 00:58]:
Michael Prokop schrieb:
- T mlist4suntong@yahoo.com [20061228 00:15]:
The reason that I'm asking is that after 'aptitude purge evms', I found the libevms-2.5 is still in the system.
Run 'deborphan' to remove unnecessary packages from your system.
I guess the point "T" wants to make is that aptitude tracks which packages have been installed manually and which have been installed automatically (i. e. to fulfill dependencies). Automatically installed packages will be uninstalled as soon as they are no longer needed.
I'm aware of the fact. :)
You can change this flag manually if you want to: Usually I select the "libs" category in aptitude and press "M" to mark all packages in it as autoMatically installed. I don't know how this can be done (for the whole category) on the command line.
Ah, thanks for the hint. (I usually don't use the graphical interface of aptitude but only the cmdline version.)
Use deborphan and debfoster to clean up your system if that's what you want to do.
I did not use deborphan since Debian Woody, since aptitude does the job as well for me.
aptitude is a good choice, yes. But at the time when I started to work on grml aptitude had some annoying issues and nowadays aptitude is just too time consuming for some of my tasks. That's why I often still use apt-get. ;)
regards, -mika-
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