Hello grml-users,
I'd like to replace "hwsetup"-stuff on grml with hotplug/discover/hwinfo. This could save some time when booting grml.
grml already uses hotplug/discover/hwinfo and hwsetup is needed only for creating the X-configuration-file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 when running grml-x.
Everyone of you who has a grml 0.3-CD has access to the "new X-system" grml-x2. grml-x2 is under development but *should* work already (basically). What's important for me is feedback whether grml-x2 works for you or not.
Please run 'grml-x2 $WINDOWMANAGER' [e.g. 'grml-x2 wmi' to start wmi] instead of 'grml-x $WINDOWMANAGER' and please let me know if it works for you or if you notice any problems.
If you have any special wishes for grml 0.4 please let me know them too!
regards, -mika-
Hi, * Michael Prokop mika@grml.org [2005-03-12 14:19]:
Hello grml-users,
I'd like to replace "hwsetup"-stuff on grml with hotplug/discover/hwinfo. This could save some time when booting grml.
grml already uses hotplug/discover/hwinfo and hwsetup is needed only for creating the X-configuration-file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 when running grml-x.
Everyone of you who has a grml 0.3-CD has access to the "new X-system" grml-x2. grml-x2 is under development but *should* work already (basically). What's important for me is feedback whether grml-x2 works for you or not.
[...] works fine for me with all wms shipped with grml. regards nico
Am Sat, 12 Mar 2005 00:11:42 +0100 Michael Prokop mika@grml.org schrieb:
Hello grml-users,
Please run 'grml-x2 $WINDOWMANAGER' [e.g. 'grml-x2 wmi' to start wmi] instead of 'grml-x $WINDOWMANAGER' and please let me know if it works for you or if you notice any problems.
I tested 'grml-x2 fluxbox' on different machines. The X started well, but in fluxbox the fonts are not visible, menu is empty. On one machine the Monitor get "sync out of range" ddcxinfo -hsync -vsync says: "0-0 0-0". In this case a vsync of 60Hz would be better.
/Stormchild/
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 10:10:58AM +0100, Rain Stormchild:
Am Sat, 12 Mar 2005 00:11:42 +0100
I tested 'grml-x2 fluxbox' on different machines. The X started well, but in fluxbox the fonts are not visible, menu is empty. On one machine the Monitor get "sync out of range" ddcxinfo -hsync -vsync says: "0-0 0-0". In this case a vsync of 60Hz would be better.
/Stormchild/
thx for telling us!
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* Rain Stormchild stormchild@online.ie [20050313 10:15]:
Am Sat, 12 Mar 2005 00:11:42 +0100 Michael Prokop mika@grml.org schrieb:
Please run 'grml-x2 $WINDOWMANAGER' [e.g. 'grml-x2 wmi' to start wmi] instead of 'grml-x $WINDOWMANAGER' and please let me know if it works for you or if you notice any problems.
I tested 'grml-x2 fluxbox' on different machines.
Great!
The X started well, but in fluxbox the fonts are not visible, menu is empty.
Very strange, indeed. One of our developers noticed the same behaviour but I could never reproduce it. ;-( Anyway, I'll take a look at it.
On one machine the Monitor get "sync out of range" ddcxinfo -hsync -vsync says: "0-0 0-0". In this case a vsync of 60Hz would be better.
Ok, I'll try to find a fix for this.
Thanks a lot for your feedback!
regards, -mika-
Thanks for your answer.
Am Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:08:54 +0100 Michael Prokop mika@grml.org schrieb:
- Rain Stormchild stormchild@online.ie [20050313 10:15]:
Am Sat, 12 Mar 2005 00:11:42 +0100 Michael Prokop mika@grml.org schrieb:
Please run 'grml-x2 $WINDOWMANAGER' [e.g. 'grml-x2 wmi' to start wmi] instead of 'grml-x $WINDOWMANAGER' and please let me know if it works for you or if you notice any problems.
I tested 'grml-x2 fluxbox' on different machines.
Great!
The X started well, but in fluxbox the fonts are not visible, menu is empty.
Very strange, indeed. One of our developers noticed the same behaviour but I could never reproduce it. ;-( Anyway, I'll take a look at it.
I can send a screenshot. I checked again, this problem only occures when X is started as root. I remember this as a problem with fluxbox 0.9.9 and 0.9.10. Maybe an update to 0.9.12 will help.
On one machine the Monitor get "sync out of range" ddcxinfo -hsync -vsync says: "0-0 0-0". In this case a vsync of 60Hz would be better.
Ok, I'll try to find a fix for this.
The Monitor (a very old one) is attached to the computer via switch. This could be a problem. On my notebook also the ddcxinfo gets nothing useful, but here the sync is ok (60Hz).
Thanks a lot for your feedback!
regards,
-mika-
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* Rain Stormchild stormchild@online.ie [20050313 15:46]:
Am Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:08:54 +0100 Michael Prokop mika@grml.org schrieb:
- Rain Stormchild stormchild@online.ie [20050313 10:15]:
The X started well, but in fluxbox the fonts are not visible, menu is empty.
Very strange, indeed. One of our developers noticed the same behaviour but I could never reproduce it. ;-( Anyway, I'll take a look at it.
I can send a screenshot. I checked again, this problem only occures when X is started as root. I remember this as a problem with fluxbox 0.9.9 and 0.9.10. Maybe an update to 0.9.12 will help.
Ah! I never run X as root :) - thanks for information!
On one machine the Monitor get "sync out of range" ddcxinfo -hsync -vsync says: "0-0 0-0". In this case a vsync of 60Hz would be better.
Ok, I'll try to find a fix for this.
The Monitor (a very old one) is attached to the computer via switch. This could be a problem. On my notebook also the ddcxinfo gets nothing useful, but here the sync is ok (60Hz).
Ah ok. To be honest I don't want to rely on ddcxinfo, so I will introduce commandline options hsyns + vsync for grml-x2 (and of course check for bootoptions hsync/vsync as well).
So you will be able to boot grml via:
grml hsync=FOO vsync=BAR
or call grml-x2 via:
grml-x2 -hsync=FOO -vsync=BAR fluxbox
I hope this a reasonable solution.
regards, -mika-
Hello, * Rain Stormchild stormchild@online.ie [2005-03-13 19:39]:
Am Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:08:54 +0100 Michael Prokop mika@grml.org schrieb:
- Rain Stormchild stormchild@online.ie [20050313 10:15]:
Am Sat, 12 Mar 2005 00:11:42 +0100 Michael Prokop mika@grml.org schrieb:
Please run 'grml-x2 $WINDOWMANAGER' [e.g. 'grml-x2 wmi' to start wmi] instead of 'grml-x $WINDOWMANAGER' and please let me know if it works for you or if you notice any problems.
I tested 'grml-x2 fluxbox' on different machines.
Great!
The X started well, but in fluxbox the fonts are not visible, menu is empty.
Very strange, indeed. One of our developers noticed the same behaviour but I could never reproduce it. ;-( Anyway, I'll take a look at it.
I can send a screenshot. I checked again, this problem only occures when X is started as root. I remember this as a problem with fluxbox 0.9.9 and 0.9.10. Maybe an update to 0.9.12 will help.
[...] do you have this problem only with fluxbox? regards nico
Hi,
Am Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:08:43 +0100 Nico Golde nico@ngolde.de schrieb:
[...]
The X started well, but in fluxbox the fonts are not visible, menu is empty.
Very strange, indeed. One of our developers noticed the same behaviour but I could never reproduce it. ;-( Anyway, I'll take a look at it.
I can send a screenshot. I checked again, this problem only occures when X is started as root. I remember this as a problem with fluxbox 0.9.9 and 0.9.10. Maybe an update to 0.9.12 will help.
[...] do you have this problem only with fluxbox? regards nico
yes, the problem is only in fluxbox, in wmi and pekwm the fonts are readable.
/Stormchild/
Hello Rain,
* Rain Stormchild stormchild@online.ie [2005-03-13 22:15]:
Am Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:08:43 +0100 Nico Golde nico@ngolde.de schrieb:
[...]
The X started well, but in fluxbox the fonts are not visible, menu is empty.
Very strange, indeed. One of our developers noticed the same behaviour but I could never reproduce it. ;-( Anyway, I'll take a look at it.
I can send a screenshot. I checked again, this problem only occures when X is started as root. I remember this as a problem with fluxbox 0.9.9 and 0.9.10. Maybe an update to 0.9.12 will help.
[...] do you have this problem only with fluxbox? regards nico
yes, the problem is only in fluxbox, in wmi and pekwm the fonts are readable.
mhm maybe it is a problem with the antialiased fonts fluxbox uses. regards nico
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