A view requests to make remastering easier
I've experimented quite a bit with remastering grml. Basically i wanted to do change the package list to about that what i have on my desktop, which basically is mostly kde and kde apps, stuff like quanta, kile, etc...
I'm quite there now, it works almost the way i want it. To have it working perfectly i would only need a view changes/additions to the grml scripts:
*) option to change the default windowmanager - not hardcoding wm-ng in /etc/grml/autoconfig.functions
*) options to start x on boot, so you can either - don't do anything - just create xorg.conf, but don't start xorg - create xorg.config and start xorg
well, that's basically it. :)
Worf
* Wolfgang Scheicher worf@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at [20060921 18:15]:
I've experimented quite a bit with remastering grml. Basically i wanted to do change the package list to about that what i have on my desktop, which basically is mostly kde and kde apps, stuff like quanta, kile, etc...
I'm quite there now, it works almost the way i want it. To have it working perfectly i would only need a view changes/additions to the grml scripts:
*) option to change the default windowmanager
- not hardcoding wm-ng in /etc/grml/autoconfig.functions
You already know the bootoption "startx"?
grml startx => start default window manager wm-ng (fluxbox with addons)
grml startx=ion3 => start X with window manager ion3
*) options to start x on boot, so you can either
- don't do anything
Hm, sorry - what does 'don't do anything' mean? :) Interesting feature request. Do I have to implement nothing as well? ;)
- just create xorg.conf, but don't start xorg
Ok, so you mean you want to get a special bootoption which runs 'grml-x -force -nostart wm-ng' in background during bootup?
- create xorg.config and start xorg
Bootoption startx does that. :)
regards, -mika-
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 18:47:59 +0200, Michael Prokop wrote:
- just create xorg.conf, but don't start xorg
Ok, so you mean you want to get a special bootoption which runs 'grml-x -force -nostart wm-ng' in background during bootup?
I think that should be default, if there is no xorg.conf created.
So if I feel like to start X, just type startx, without any pre-req hassles. If I want to further configure my ATI drivers, the default xorg.conf is already there for the "aticonfig"...
The special bootoption should be, instead, disable generating xorg.conf in background during bootup.
Really hope so...
* T mlist4suntong@yahoo.com [20060922 05:15]:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 18:47:59 +0200, Michael Prokop wrote:
- just create xorg.conf, but don't start xorg
Ok, so you mean you want to get a special bootoption which runs 'grml-x -force -nostart wm-ng' in background during bootup?
I think that should be default, if there is no xorg.conf created.
NACK
So if I feel like to start X, just type startx, without any pre-req hassles. If I want to further configure my ATI drivers, the default xorg.conf is already there for the "aticonfig"...
The special bootoption should be, instead, disable generating xorg.conf in background during bootup.
No. You have to specify the window manager you want to use in any case. And as soon as a xorg.conf exists you can use startx anyway.
regards, -mika-
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:07:29 +0200, Michael Prokop wrote:
- T mlist4suntong@yahoo.com [20060922 05:15]:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 18:47:59 +0200, Michael Prokop wrote:
- just create xorg.conf, but don't start xorg
Ok, so you mean you want to get a special bootoption which runs 'grml-x -force -nostart wm-ng' in background during bootup?
I think that should be default, if there is no xorg.conf created.
NACK
Can I know why?
I meant, by default, grml should create xorg.conf if there is no xorg.conf exists. What would it hurt to do so?
So if I feel like to start X, just type startx, without any pre-req hassles. If I want to further configure my ATI drivers, the default xorg.conf is already there for the "aticonfig"...
No. You have to specify the window manager you want to use in any case.
To me, creating an xorg.conf has nothing to do with choosing a window manager. why is this a issue stopping creating xorg.conf?
And as soon as a xorg.conf exists you can use startx anyway.
I agree. I think that's the whole point of this discussion.
BTW, I use fluxbox, so choosing another window manager is not an issue to me.
* T mlist4suntong@yahoo.com [20060922 19:37]:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:07:29 +0200, Michael Prokop wrote:
- T mlist4suntong@yahoo.com [20060922 05:15]:
Ok, so you mean you want to get a special bootoption which runs 'grml-x -force -nostart wm-ng' in background during bootup?
I think that should be default, if there is no xorg.conf created.
NACK
Can I know why?
I meant, by default, grml should create xorg.conf if there is no xorg.conf exists. What would it hurt to do so?
grml is (especially) for texttool users and sysadmins. Many of them don't use/start X at all. Running grml-x when booting is a time + memory consuming task. So no reason to run it by default. Of course that's no reason to *not* support it on *request* via a special bootoption, I'll add this option for the future.
*If* someone needs X he should become familiar with grml-x and its possibilities.
So if I feel like to start X, just type startx, without any pre-req hassles. If I want to further configure my ATI drivers, the default xorg.conf is already there for the "aticonfig"...
No. You have to specify the window manager you want to use in any case.
To me, creating an xorg.conf has nothing to do with choosing a window manager. why is this a issue stopping creating xorg.conf?
You have to specify the window manager you want to use in any case.
Using "grml-x $WINDOWMANAGER" works and people are used to it. If a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf exists already (and maybe an adjusted ~/.xinitrc version, which fits your needs as well) you don't have to use grml-x anymore. So if you need a special xorg.conf variant or always work on the same box consider use of grml's configuration options from the configuration framework (see http://grml.org/config/ - save-config, GRMLCFG,...). If you are using a hd-installation you don't have to care about it at all. :)
And as soon as a xorg.conf exists you can use startx anyway.
I agree. I think that's the whole point of this discussion. BTW, I use fluxbox, so choosing another window manager is not an issue to me.
For *you*, but there are other grml users out there. ;)
regards, -mika-
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