Le mardi 13 décembre à 18:31, John G. Heim a écrit :

From: "Philippe Delavalade" philippe.delavalade@sfr.fr To: grml@ml.grml.org

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So, accessibility is disabled :-( That's what I feared and the 4 tones are of no interest...

Well, I wouldn't go that far. When you hear the tones, press q, and type in the command to load the accessibility tool of your choice. For example, if you have a doubletalk, you'd type "modprobe speakup_ltlk".

Maybe, but my interest is for braille with brltty ; earlier, there was a boot option invoking brltty ; it was not easy to deal with because it was not easy to know when it was time to enter the option and keyboard was an qwerty one. Nevertheless, I could customize with grml2iso and a help from this list.

Now, I have to wait for the tones, press 'q' and invoke brltty ; but I'm stil in qwerty :-( I can say I want french with the lang boot option but it's not so easy to know when I have to enter the boot option.

I feel the best way should be to have a beep when it's time to enter boot options ; then it should be possible to enter the option brltty=,,, the blind option and the lang.

I was pleased with the previous release (2011.05) customized ; I fear customizing the next release will be more difficult.

Maybe I'm wrong and I hope so.

It occurs to me that it is kind of inaccurate to say that the accessibility tools have been removed. The speakup modules are now part of a regular kernel. They haven't been removed. So you should be able to load them at the boot prompt via the normal process for loading kernel modules. I have never actually tried this myself and I haven't had time to try the latest grml release yet either. But I'll do that ASAP and report back. If you want to try it yourself, here is a link to documentation on the kernel.org web site on how to load kernel modules:

http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt

I'll have a look to it but for me, braille is much more important than speech.

Assuming that works, grml is more accessible than ever. At the very least, you should be able to load the speakup modules after boot.

As I know, speakup don't speak french :-(

Thanks ; I'm going to try another time.