Grml 2011.12 Release Candidate 1 available
Grml Users!
We are proud to announce the first release candidate of the upcoming version 2011.12, code-named "Knecht Rootrecht"!
For detailed information about the changes between 2011.05 and 2011.12 have a look at the official release announcement: http://bit.ly/vMHbqR
This release brings a downsizing and cleanup: one flavour, two architectures. The new, smaller flavour has a 350MB ISO size target, while still delivering over 1.1GB of open source software relevant for system administrators!
Give it a try: download grml 2011.12-rc from http://bit.ly/sESUaa now!
Please test the ISOs and everything you usually use and report back, so we can complete the stable release soon. If no major problems come up, the next iteration will be the stable release, which is scheduled for end of December.
Thank you for your attention, -ch on behalf of the Grml Team.
Successes:
1. Waited for the tone, pressed q, typed in 'modprobe speakup_ltlk' and got speech. 2. Waited for the tone, pressed q, typed in 'brltty' and got braille on my braille display.
Problems:
1. Could not get the ssh server to start. Has the ssh=<password> cheat code been removed? 2. Could not load speakup kernel module for my synth at the boot prompt. I understand that the grml cheat codes for loading speakup have been removed. But I thought there was a way to load kernel modules at boot. The grml documentation references this document on kernel.org:
http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
If I read that correctly, I should be able to type 'grml modprobe speakup_ltlk' at the boot prompt. But it didn't work. I think that only works for modules in initrd, correct?
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* John Heim wrote [14.12.11 20:32]: Hi,
- Waited for the tone, pressed q, typed in 'modprobe speakup_ltlk'
and got speech. 2. Waited for the tone, pressed q, typed in 'brltty' and got braille on my braille display.
That is really great. Thanks for your feedback.
Problems:
- Could not get the ssh server to start. Has the ssh=<password>
cheat code been removed?
No. I just tested it with an little bit older build and it works without a problem. Maybe you didn't have a network connection?
- Could not load speakup kernel module for my synth at the boot
prompt. I understand that the grml cheat codes for loading speakup have been removed. But I thought there was a way to load kernel modules at boot. The grml documentation references this document on kernel.org:
http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
If I read that correctly, I should be able to type 'grml modprobe speakup_ltlk' at the boot prompt.
No. This document specifies how you can specify module parameters. One way is to specify the parameters after providing the name on the modprobe command like:
modprobe modulename moduleparameter=value
The other solution is to specify modulename.moduleparameter=value at the boot commandline.
Ulrich
From: "Ulrich Dangel" mru@grml.org To: grml@ml.grml.org; grml-devel@ml.grml.org
Problems
- Could not get the ssh server to start. Has the ssh=<password>
cheat code been removed?
No. I just tested it with an little bit older build and it works without a problem. Maybe you didn't have a network connection?
Well, I can ping it. I checked it with nmap and found that only port 111 is open. (see below.) I'm about as sure as I can be that I'm typing 'grml ssh=bogus' at the boot prompt. I've done it about a million times with previous grml releases. Later this afternoon I may be able to get sighted assistance.
Starting Nmap 5.00 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2011-12-14 13:46 CST Interesting ports on test1.math.wisc.edu (144.92.166.10): Not shown: 999 closed ports PORT STATE SERVICE 111/tcp open rpcbind
Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 6.67 seconds
* John Heim wrote [14.12.11 21:41]: Hi,
Well, I can ping it. I checked it with nmap and found that only port 111 is open. (see below.) I'm about as sure as I can be that I'm typing 'grml ssh=bogus' at the boot prompt. I've done it about a million times with previous grml releases. Later this afternoon I may be able to get sighted assistance.
If you have access to the system you can just read /proc/cmdline to get the commandline.
We are currently thinking about adding a beep after the bootloader is loaded. Hopefully this will help to add customized parameters to the commandline.
Ulrich
From: "Ulrich Dangel" mru@grml.org To: grml@ml.grml.org Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [Grml] ssh server with grml_2011.12-rc1
- John Heim wrote [14.12.11 21:41]:
Hi,
Well, I can ping it. I checked it with nmap and found that only port 111 is open. (see below.) I'm about as sure as I can be that I'm typing 'grml ssh=bogus' at the boot prompt. I've done it about a million times with previous grml releases. Later this afternoon I may be able to get sighted assistance.
If you have access to the system you can just read /proc/cmdline to get the commandline.
I'm guessing I'm doing something wrong. Here's the contents of /proc/cmdline... Note that it does not contain what I typed. I think the problem is that I have to press some down arrows and/or tabs when the disk stops spinning. I have just been typing my grml command...
initrd=/boot/grml/initrd.gz boot=live bootid=grml201112rc1 apm=power-off vga=791 quiet nomce grml ssh=bogus BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/grml/linux26
We are currently thinking about adding a beep after the bootloader is loaded. Hopefully this will help to add customized parameters to the commandline.
That would be very nice.
Ulrich
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* John G. Heim wrote [15.12.11 01:24]:
I'm guessing I'm doing something wrong. Here's the contents of /proc/cmdline... Note that it does not contain what I typed. I think
It actually contains your ssh=bogus entry which is correct. I just downloaded grml64-2011.12-rc1 and it works for me.
the problem is that I have to press some down arrows and/or tabs when the disk stops spinning. I have just been typing my grml command...
Grml switched to a graphical menu a while ago. You just have to press tab and enter the addtional boot parameters like ssh=bogus which you did according to the content below. You do not have to add the grml paramer like you did but there is no harm if you do it.
initrd=/boot/grml/initrd.gz boot=live bootid=grml201112rc1 apm=power-off vga=791 quiet nomce grml ssh=bogus BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/grml/linux26
It seems that this is the correct commandline. I just tested it and it works for me. Is there maybe a firewall in between? Otherwise can you test if there is a sshd running on the machine with pidof sshd? You can also try to access the ssh daemon from the machine itself with:
ssh grml@grml.local
which should ask for the password of the host.
We are currently thinking about adding a beep after the bootloader is loaded. Hopefully this will help to add customized parameters to the commandline.
That would be very nice.
You can test and use a test version from http://jenkins.grml.org/job/grml-full-amd64/760/artifact/2011-12-15_00-04-14... which should contain the beep in the bootloader. This is atm untested. Please be aware that this iso is a 64bit one. I can't offer you a 32bit one.
Ulrich
From: "Ulrich Dangel" mru@grml.org To: grml@ml.grml.org; grml-devel@ml.grml.org
The other solution is to specify modulename.moduleparameter=value at the boot commandline.
Well, what I'd like to know is if its possible to load a kernel module atthe the boot prompt. After boot, I can say, 'modprobe speakup_ltlk' to get speech but sometimes it is important to have speech during boot. That way I can hear the boot messages.
Actually, if the serial console worked, that would probably be enough for me. I can't speak for all blind people but if I really needed to see boot messages, I'd probably want to access them through a serial console anyway since that way you can cut & paste them into an email or whatever.
I'm going to try that serial console thing again tomorrow. I know you said its a bug but I am not sure that the cheat codes were getting through to the kernel because I wasn't pressing tab before typing them.
* John G. Heim wrote [15.12.11 03:08]:
Well, what I'd like to know is if its possible to load a kernel module atthe the boot prompt.
Not as far as i know.
I'm going to try that serial console thing again tomorrow. I know you said its a bug but I am not sure that the cheat codes were getting through to the kernel because I wasn't pressing tab before typing them.
I tried it myself and had the same problem. I saw the bootmessages on the serial console but could not login onto the system.
Ulrich
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