Hi,
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 02:28:13AM +0100, Ulrich Dangel wrote:
- Tom {Tomcat} Oehser wrote [28.12.11 00:45]:
Hi,
Hmmm... 'atop' also? Not as bad as 'buffer', but, I'm having withdrawal.
Yes, have a look at htop instead.
Is there a list of what was removed?
Yes, you can either create your own list by comapring the dpkg selection files or use http://daily.grml.org:8080/job/grml64_Release/25/artifact/changelog.txt which has a removed section
I am a bit sad glancing on that list. Some of the tools removed are big (ok, so one can accept that and it can be justified), but most of them are small so from the size point of view it does not help if you remove.
I name just a few: afio aircrack-ng awesome (i do not use this a friend does) build-essential (so from now on building inside grml will be not that easy) gcc, g++ also gone... comgt (180k) dns2tcp (201k) (I am using this if I stay at a hotel with insane internet rates) emacs23 (this is a beast I know, more than one friend use this) fakeroot firmware-qlogic (this means that it will not boot on server containing FC card?) irssi ipmitool ldapvi libnet-*-perl mutt postfix (I was using this for educating mailing basics also good for testing) pppoe (no one with adsl anymore?) radvd runit (520k) rxvt-unicode (this was part or the release from the begining) tcptraceroute virtualbox tp_smapi zsh-lovers is your package afaik
If a tool is used when you are online it makes sense to remove it (nsd, bind9) and one can reinstall easily. If you remove pppoe how can one connect facing an adsl connection? If an package mostly used offline is removed a functionality is lost.
I make my /boot 1Gb to be able to put a grml there for recovery purposes.
I used to make my own (remaster) grml flavour and a bit of this or that. But now that most of the tools gone maybe I will just stick to the old one.
I used to recommend grml to friends who are not that experienced to make their own grml (and to tell the truth most of us are just lazy or lack the time).
What kind of testing is needed to get (most/some of) the tools back on the cd? I used to be around on IRC, but when some folk switched from english I was unable to follow the conversation so I dropped out.
I want grml to be *the* rescue/sysadmin cd again not just one of the bootable linux cds out there. Thanks.
Regards, cstamas