* Frank Terbeck [Wed Dec 28, 2011 at 01:43:22PM +0100]:
Csillag Tamas wrote:
irssi
I'd like at least one IRC client on the ISO, too. It's useful for crying for help when something goes haywire. Irssi or epic are reasonable suspects, I guess. Maybe even weechat (although I think the default behaviour is insane).
Hm, good point. But the ones needing help need network access anyway, so they can just install their favourite IRC client anyway, no? (I'm aware that we did provide out-of-the-box config for irssi which just joined our channel, but I didn't see that many people using that actually.)
And finally: I am not a fan of the grml96 ISOs and I was only realising that they existed after the release. Here is why I don't like them: The cleaned up package list leaves us with huge amounts of free space on a standard blank CD. It would be trivial to say "What, you'd like afio back? Well. No problem. Readded it. Get tomorrows daily image."
Now there is a new artificial limit: If we add a lot of new packages, then grml96 may overflow. And if that limits what we'd include in our images, that would be *quite* unfortunate to say the least.
I realise, that grml96 may contain a completely different set of packages then the single-arch package. But I wouldn't want to diverge too much, because it would lead to confusion and pain. And it's trivial to create a bootable medium with both architectures using, say, grml2usb.
grml96 is the result of one single grml2iso command line, so it won't receive a different package list than grml32 and grml64 but instead will just continue being the result of the two ISOs getting combined, from my POV.
And IIRC Christian already mentioned that he doesn't consider the "artificial limit" an real issue for grml96, and I don't really neither.
I don't consider CDs that relevant anymore nowadays. Either the hardware can boot of USB/PXE or the hardware is that old that an old version/release should work as well. So from my POV it's more important to provide a decent grml32/grml64 version which has sane size limits. grml96 could also increase to over 700MB in size, since <=512MB won't be possible anyway and the next common USB pen size limit is 1GB. If booting from CD is *that* important and relevant you shouldn't care about the MBs that you're "losing" with burning the ~350MB grml32/grml64 ISO to CD.
regards, -mika-