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Dear Mark,<BR>
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It is far more complicated, as dependencies are strewn about testing, unstable, and experimental. <BR>
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One has to delete or change the pin file in apt, enable all the repos for experimental, etch, unstable and make sure they work for your area.<BR>
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Then start with:<BR>
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apt-get install nautilus gdm totem-xine evolution <BR>
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Then, applets, nautilus burner(which may require a downgrade of a lib or two) and so on. You will end up with a very mixed bag, mostly gnome 18, with a few 16 things. I never bother to do desktop-environment, as I do not need the meta-package.<BR>
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Thus, there is, at the moment, no easy way. At the moment a knowledge of pinning, chasing dependencies, and so on is necessary.<BR>
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Now, if one can live with an earlier version of gnome, one can, before anything else, use nano to change the sources list to debian etch, and nothing else, the apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment, but, this will eventually create issues with upgrades. Not now, but eventually, as when one reverts to the unstable branch, compilers change, and a runtime or two.<BR>
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One can try to activate the ubuntu repositories, which means, for the one shot, commenting out all the others, and installing gnome-desktop-environment, then changing back to debian unstable. This should work without a problem, for those of us who almost never dist-upgrade. (I upgrade basically never)<BR>
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I think the upgrade to 1.0 is, however, well worth it for production machines, as I noticed a subjective, that is subjective, and to repeat, subjective increase in overall performance. The box just "feels" a lot snappier. Probably due to better 2d performance of oss ati driver on x600 card.<BR>
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A complete gnome install, as of yesterday, involved about an hour of fiddling with various deps. On the other hand, the resulting system was much, much more useful than a ubuntu install for laptop owners who travel a lot, and use more complicated networking. Also, the options we have in grml are far broader, they just require more skill to get a polished gnome desktop working. <BR>
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Best,<BR>
m<BR>
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On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 22:59 -0700, Mark wrote:
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Martin,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Do you use</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">or some other method?</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Simplicity appeals, but the above command causes problems. Later, apt</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">wants to uninstall the whole gnome-desktop-environment when asked to</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">remove just one tiny piece.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I haven't tested grml rc1 yet. Can you elaborate on the GNOME issues</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">you encountered?</FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Thanks,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> </FONT> MA
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